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  1. AaronSecret

    Why did Eru allow the torture of the newborn 🧝elves?

    What's your belief? Here are some questions as brainstorm ideas: 1. How does Eru Ilúvatar’s granting of free will to the Elves and other beings play into his decision to allow Morgoth to torment them? Is it an inevitable consequence of free will, or a test of faith? 2. Did Eru Ilúvatar have...
  2. Turin_Turambar

    Top 10 Most Powerful Beings in Legendarium (Excluding Eru Iluvatar)

    1-Melkor 2-Tom bombadil 3-Tulkas 4-Manwe 5-Ungoliant 6-Orome 7-Eönwe 8-Sauron 9-Ancalagon 10-Gothmog
  3. Firinne Gile

    Where can one find different online platforms related to this topic?

    In 2003 and 2012 because of the movies (The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit) the subject of "Tolkienian spirituality" or spirituality based on his Legendarium came up again so I'll create this topic with future discussions in mind because maybe the Amazon series can rekindle the debate. I...
  4. Úlairi

    Tolkien's Eden - The Fall of the Children of Ilúvatar

    I Lantë Eruhínion Tamma - Vanima Mir Atta Ainur tirar Arda úsahtië Rúcina i luhtanë Mana tyarnë Eru anta i Atani cilmë? Sí narntë ilya rúcina Translation: This thread is quintessentially a derivative from this thread. Was the continuous Falling of the Peoples of Arda due to the...
  5. Ancalagon

    Does Ilúvatar deserve to be worshipped?

    When one considers the devastation upon Arda since the beginning, one must wonder whether Eru indeed deserved to be praised. Man seems the only sentient being upon Arda to have ever really praised Eru, yet should all races bow down before him/her and be thankful, such as the Evil races do before...
  6. Gil-Galad

    Was Ilúvatar sufficiently involved in Arda?

    Round 7:The Guild of Scholar's Hall vs. The Guild of Ost-in-Edhil I would like to open Round 7(finally)! I honoured to to host the debate between The Guild of Scholar's Hall and The Guild of Ost-in-Edhil! I would like to ask the both teams to post the names of their debators.
  7. Celebthôl

    Were Hobbits the children Eru wanted?

    In the beggining Ilúvatar made the first two Childrens to have the Earth (Arda) for themselves and to live happily therein and not be troubled by the Evil things that befell them. But they were on a loosing path from the word go really with all the hurts that Melkor had done, and Men were even...
  8. Ithrynluin

    Ilúvatar - kind?

    This is a follow up of this debate Nóm and myself were having here: Was Ilúvatar upset at anytime with the evil thoughts and meanings from MELKOR? Plain and simple: Is Ilúvatar/God in Christianity supposed to be kind? If he cares for his Children and take pity on their sorrows...Why...
  9. Isal Celebalda

    A question on Tolkien's idea of Ilúvatar, and the destiny of the world

    I've been pondering this for a while, and I haven't decided on my opinion but here is my question to you all... Did Tolkien mean for the Ilúvatar to know everything that will ever happen in Arda, thus meaning that its destiny was fixed from the beginning? Or did he wish for Eru to be...
  10. Walter

    Eä - Ilúvatar's act of creation, a singular event?

    Was Ilúvatars act of creation - as quoted above - a singular event?
  11. F

    Did Ilúvatar's anger towards Melkor ever manifest?

    I have no idea, i would have to read the first chapters of the Silmarillion very closely to make sure. but i want to make my point of view out of yours. instead.
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