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Everyone knows the two most powerful of the valar are the brothers,Melkor and Manwe, but who out of those two valarian titans has the greater power.
Manwe, one of the Aratar the leader of the Ainur, the king of the Valar, husband of varda and king of Arda. He lives atop the chiefest peak in...
Manwe: "even as Eru spoke to us, shall beauty not before conceived be brought into Ea, and evil yet be good to have been"
I can only parse this last bit as "and evil yet good to have been" - am I missing a trick? (the "be" bit)
In this Hypothetical Scenario.
Would he be able to last longer than Melkor ?
How well would Manwe fare against Melkor and the rest of the 13 Valar ?
Would the outcome of his rebellion be any different than that of Melkor's own rebellion ?
Your Thoughts ?
There are times, when studying the theology presented in Tolkien's work, that I find myself wondering if Manwe is supposed to essentially be God The Son, or The Logos.
The main problem I have with this, is that Manwe is a created being, while The Logos is not. But still he rules the Anuir with...
Greetings. I noticed some thread around here asking if Mel was worse in some way than Sauron. The first answer to pop into my head was ---> "Mel is the greatest! Poor Mel. Evil Sauron. Mel never hurt poor Smeagol." I then started thinking up some proof for you people who need to hear more...
Was it ok for Manwe to pardon Melkor?
Another topic from the Debate Tournament.
When this was debated, it was not allowed to use the essay Ósanwe kenta. As I have not read it, I am not sure if that rule should apply here as well?
when i was reading though the sil (VQ & A) i noticed that when it talks about melkor and mercy he does not understand while manwe was not able to understand that melkor was so completly turned to evil that he could not come back.
two things
1 = the innocence of Manwe
2 = the...
Is Melkor more powerful then Manwe? I am about half done with the Sil and I was wondering. Eru created Melkor as the Top Ainur, but Melkor turned evil, and Manwe was supposed to be the most powerful, now was Melkor more powerful than Manwe ( I also beleive they were brothers), or was Manwe more...