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    What did cause Frodo to cave in the end and claim the Ring?

    I'm just curious what the Ring could have lured him with to make him cave when he was so close to destroying it. It wasn't like Boromir where he thought that most likely it would fall into Sauron's hands by taking it to Mordor and that all of the blood spilt by his fellows in Gondor would be...
  2. How do we know for CERTAIN you can't use the Ring?

    A wild question, I know, and slightly blasphemous, but in the spirit of "trust the tale, not the teller" (as D. H. Lawrence put it), I feel I have to ask this. We know that the One Ring confers great power, that one of sufficient strength who wields it can, in theory, not only rival Sauron but...
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    Could Gimili have destroyed the One Ring?

    We know that Suaron's attempt to use the Seven Dwarven Rings on the Dwarf Lords failed. All it did was make them like gold more. Was it possible that Gimili could have borne the One Ring to the Crack of Doom and thrown it in?
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    Tolkien and the ring of the Nibelungs

    I know Tolkien said he wasn’t inspired by the ring of the Nibelungs when he wrote LOTR but I feel that there are some commons themes or both influenced by something even earlier?
  5. How could a lidless 👁️eye wear the Ring?

    As it's Christmas I hope forum members won't mind if I ask a stupid question. If Sauron was a disembodied lidless eye then how could he put the Ring on if he captured it?
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    Could the One Ring connection have worked in reverse?

    Sauron's goal was to control the Nine Men, Seven Dwarves, and Three Elves with his Master Ring. However, was it possible that, if the others had known about it and had not been of a villainous sort, that, say, Nine Aragorns, some dwarves with the strength of Durin or even a Dwarf of the First...
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    Would 👁️Sauron have fallen at any point if the Ring was destroyed?

    We know for certain that he'd have fallen AFTER his defeat at the Battle of the Last Alliance (can't recall the name), as they said Isildur could have and should have destroyed the Ring right then. But would Sauron have fallen even back in the Second Age if, by some chance, the Numenoreans...
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    Why would 👁️Sauron care if Aragorn had the Ring?

    He's just a mortal man. Would it even be possible for him to get enough power from it to topple Suaron? That part I never got as to why it seemed possible that Gondor could do anything with the Ring more than raise a big stink and have Suaron personally come over there and take it.
  9. Bilbo and the ring

    When bilbo had the ring in the Hobit why where the ring wraiths not drawn to him like they were to frodo.
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    What if Gollum had survived the Ring's destruction?

    The thought crossed my mind just now and it would be interesting to see what would have happened to his personality had the dangerous influences of his "precious" been removed. Obviously, if, for instance, he'd been somewhere else in Mordor when the Ring went down (maybe a fight between Frodo...
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    Did the Ring allow Bilbo to talk to the Mirkwood spiders?

    I don't think Shelob ever spoke in the book (though Gollum appeared to have some alliance with her, so maybe he at least figured out how to communicate with her), and I'm not sure if Ungoliant ever spoke to anyone but possibly Morgoth (who was a Valar and had near divine abilities, perhaps...
  12. Invibility mechanics, what if a bearer of the One ring died using it ?

    Hello all ! I was watching the Hobbit just now and asked myself a question during the scene where Bilbo go through Dale to warn Thorin and his kin of the arrival of the forces of Gundabad. Bilbo wears the ring and dodge orcs weapon swings while invisible. My question was : "what if he takes a...
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    How did Bilbo and Sam manage to part with the Ring by choice?

    Sauron: Didn't part with it of his own free will. Had it cut from his finger. Isildur: Didn't destroy it and only parted with it when killed by orcs. Deagol: Didn't seem willing to part with it and only parted with it when murdered by Smeagol. Smeagol*: Lost it unwillingly when it slipped off...
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    How could 👁️Sauron have won once the Ring reached the Cracks of Doom?

    What actually happened was that Gollum and Frodo fought over the Ring, Gollum got it, but fell into the fire and destroyed it. However, all of these other scenarios should have also resulted in the Ring getting destroyed. Gollum gets it and somehow Frodo and Sam are incapacitated. However...
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    What if Bilbo hadn't given back the Ring?

    I keep wondering this. He nearly came to the point of attacking Gandalf with Sting. What if he point blank refused to part with the Ring? What was Gandalf meaning by "You shall see Gandalf the Grey uncloaked!" and how was that a threat? I don't see how Gandalf, even in Valinor Mair-form...
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    What if the One Ring was never found?

    Supposing that somehow, like the Simarils, it fell into the earth (say that Isildur had it, went through Moria, got ambushed by the Balrog, and accidentally fell off the bridge and fell a million feet, died, and the Ring was lost way down there in the waters, where not even the Balrog would go...
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    Could Treebeard have destroyed the Ring?

    I get that he'd have had a job getting into Mordor and to Mount Doom unseen, but assuming he could, and was given the Ring, could he be strong enough to resist its tricks to throw it into the fire? I don't see him having much use for the thing, other than to perhaps find or bring back the...
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    Why was 🧝Legolas never tempted by the One Ring?

    We know Galadriel was tempted but turned it down, but she seems to be the only one given the chance to do it. If the Elves took the One Ring and beat Sauron, presumably they could have been rid of him plus kept their three Rings alive forever and never faded. Legolas was around the Ring...
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    How can 👁️Sauron command the 💀Nazgul without the Ring?

    His whole point of making the Ring was to subdue the wills of those who took the other Rings as them using the other Rings would make them vulnerable to being controlled by him. However, he lost his Ring when Isildur cut it from his hand and he never ever got it back. Isildur took it and then...
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    Could Sam have destroyed the Ring at the end?

    Say that Gollum DID give up and DID NOT go after the Hobbits or that Sam HAD killed him, could Sam be able to overwhelm Frodo and get the Ring into the fire (even if it meant killing Frodo in the process) or would the Nazgul have gotten there first? True, Frodo was kind of invisible, but Sam...
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