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  1. R

    The fate of Tuor and Idril

    This is one of my favourite topics (and couple). I have had many discussions about the real fate of Tuor and Idril and many people think that Tuor was not turned into an elf and they never reached Aman. I disagree, and I have many arguments to support that. Sorry it's a bit long. First, was...
  2. D

    How Do Unfinished Tales and Fall of Gondolin Compare?

    Hello all, I have a question about the content for Of Tuor and His Coming to Gondolin, as published in The Unfinished Tales, compared to the corresponding reprinted inclusion in the book The Fall of Gondolin. Are they the same? Exactly? Or are there omissions between one or the other version...
  3. Turin_Turambar

    Were there 🧝elves and men from gondolin in the dagor bragollach?

    Were there elves and men who fought in the dagor bragollach among the elves and men who went to and lived in the gondolin before or after the dagor bragollach?
  4. Rivendell_librarian

    Two questions about "Of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin"

    1. This tale starts at page 19 in my edition. On page 27 it reads: "Tuor found often winding stairs cut in the living stone" and I was curious why the stone is described as "living". There didn't seem to be any obvious reason in the context except for traces of the Noldor of old being found...
  5. Belnorn

    Why isn't Tuor more popular?

    I read everywhere that Turin, Hurin, Beren, and all the others get more respect. However Tuor was the light version to his cousin. I felt that his story was one of the best. Lost both his parents to war or grief. Raised by elves. Eventually became a badass and created his own guild for...
  6. B

    🧝Earendil, Tuor, and Dior

    I have been pondering a few things. #1, Earendil became immortal even though he was half-man. I know that the Valar granted him immortality, but read this excerpt from The Silmarillion: "But in after days it was sung that Tuor alone of mortal Men was numbered among the elder race, and was...
  7. T

    Tuor and Idril

    Beren and Luthien Aragorn and Arwen Tuor and Idril? I thought it was forbidden for elves and men to love. Why isn't a big deal made of Tuor and Idril?
  8. S

    Reasons behind Elemmakil's response to Voronwe in 'Of Tuor'

    In 'of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin' Elemmakil says, 'This is strange of you, Voronwe, we were long friends. Why then would you set me thus cruelly beween the law and my friendship? If you had led hither unbidden one of the other houses of the Noldor, that were enough. But you have brought...
  9. A

    Tuor, mortal or mythical?

    Maybe this is discussed elsewhere, if so kindly provide links, but I'm rereading Sil (i think it number 10, getting hazy) and just finished "The Fall of Gondolin". My question deals with the idea of Tuor's mortality. Personally, I think Tuor became an elf, essencially for one reason: Luthien...
  10. C

    Tuor's admittance to Valinor

    Something that's been bothering me lately..why exactly was Tuor permitted to remain there? Of course, he was given the life of the Elves which I assume was to save Idril from heartbreak, but it does seem strange considering that the Valar almost turned Earendil away. Any thoughts?
  11. Starflower

    Of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin

    this is by far my favourite essay of the Unfinished Tales, but it is woefully incomplete. Why are we not told "the seven names of the Hidden City" ? We only catch a very fleeting glimpse of what Tuor saw when the gates opened, but why did the Professor never tell us more? Why did he abandon the...
  12. Starflower

    Tuor and Turin

    Thsi passage has always intrigued me. Turin and Tuor meet, the two sons of two of the most valiant men of the Age, but they do not know of one another's existence. But what if Tuor had called out to Turin ? What if they had found out who they are and what they are to one another ? Would Tuor...
  13. Ardamir the Blessed

    The Spear of Tuor

    UT, Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin: Did anyone ever find Tuor's spear? Gelmir and Arminas, Annael's people, the Gondolindrim, enemies? At least the spear is not mentioned in Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin again. The halls of Vinyamar are mentioned, but nothing indicates that anyone...
  14. Ancalagon

    Tuor's Vision

    Why did Ulmo show this vision to Tuor upon their meeting at Nevrast? The sheer depth of this vision was unlike any other given to Man by the Valar before or after this event. There is no doubting Ulmo's generosity with this information, yet why the vision? Could it have been to add visual...
  15. Turgon

    Of Tuor and Beren.

    A simple question, but one that has been puzzling me for a while. Why was Tuor, a mortal man, granted a place amongst the Eldar...? Beren's fate was rather different. Yet both were fathers of Half-elven bloodlines and both were mighty in deed. So why was Tuor the exception? Why was...
  16. Elfarmari

    Tuor in HoME?

    I am trying to write a poem about Tuor in the same meter as the Gest of Beren and Luthien. I've barely started, but I'm trying to find all references to Tuor in Tolkien's writings. I know he is mentioned in the Book of Lost Tales II, the silmarillion and in Unifinished Tales. Does anyone know...
  17. Turgon

    Of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin...

    Of all the unfinished works of Tolkien, this is the one I most regret not seeing finished. I think Gondolin has a special place in the Corpus of Tolkien's writings - a completed 'Of Tuor...' would have been really something. Anyway I'd like to start a thread where we can have some interesting...
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