Lantarion
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Grond, I am aware of the conflicting accounts, but my opinion is that he did have it with him. (Although the spirit-borne physical object thing is a little hard to grasp..)
About the Flame of Anor, yes I think you're right. What Gandalf basically says there is that he is the "wielder of the fire of the Sun", which is basically metaphorical imagery, referring to Narya. Gandalf wouldn't call the Flame Imperishable the 'Flame of Anor', because the Imperishable is far, far beyond anything of Arda. The 'Secret Fire', however, can be seen to mean the Flame Imperishable, as Gandalf with his fire-expertise combined with his good will and unwavering loyalty represent the goodwill of Eru. IMO anyway.
About the Flame of Anor, yes I think you're right. What Gandalf basically says there is that he is the "wielder of the fire of the Sun", which is basically metaphorical imagery, referring to Narya. Gandalf wouldn't call the Flame Imperishable the 'Flame of Anor', because the Imperishable is far, far beyond anything of Arda. The 'Secret Fire', however, can be seen to mean the Flame Imperishable, as Gandalf with his fire-expertise combined with his good will and unwavering loyalty represent the goodwill of Eru. IMO anyway.

