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Depiction of 👁️Sauron in the Movies

To use your username to depict my thoughts... it was 'Absolute Hogwash'.
the whole searchlight tower was idiotic. The armored Sauron at the beginning when he gets his fingers cut off was a better depiction.
Couldn't agree more, I didn't like many things in the PJ's movies but the stupid eye at the top of Barad Dur has to win an award for the most idiotic depiction of a character ever.

Let's not forget that the whole trilogy is about a little golden ring, Sauron's quest to get it back and the good guys quest to destroy it.

Now, as far as I know, you need fingers to wear a ring. Sauron in the books had 9 fingers, enough but I've never seen an eye globe with fingers.
 
I've always found the movie depiction of Sauron a bit strange- I couldn't find anything in the books to support that design. The most I can think of is that Sauron was described as sort of a shadow of his former self after his defeat in the end of the Silmarillion, but as far as I know he was still able to shapeshift, and was still the "Lord of phantoms and beasts" (paraphrasing, I think) which would lead me to believe he would present more as a werewolf or like any of his former shapes. Does anyone know what caused PJ to show him like this? Is there anything in the books that aludes to such a design?
Also, what do you guys think about the movie design of Sauron?
While I agree the depiction of Sauron in Jackson's films are not true to Tolkien's works, but I think they did a good job at what they meant to achieve. Peter Jackson was trying to make a film that would capture the core of The Lord of The Rings in the form of an action adventure movie for everyone, so characterizing Sauron as a physical, armored soldier made the threat feel real, powerful, and fully fleshed out without the need of greater description. Mass audiences can resonate more with a physical entity of great power that looks, acts, and feel scary and dominating. I find it quite silly and a little over the top for Tolkien's world, but for a movie made for the sole purpose of being a movie, I think they made the right choice.

As for the physical eye at the top of Barad-dur, I again find it silly and an over exaggeration of Tolkien's description, but again, for the sake of the film, a physical eye makes the threat of Sauron feel real. In the book, Sauron's influence is there in spirit and that works great for Tolkien's world, but in the movie's it feels like Sauron is there and he is here in physical form and he is gathering strength and will soon return to this other physical brute like form that was shown at the start of the film.

I do not deny that PJ's depiction of Sauron is a little absurd and somewhat goofy, but I also think that it makes the story feel more important to mass audiences who came to see these films as just that, films.
 
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While I agree the depiction of Sauron in Jackson's films are not true to Tolkien's works, but I think they did a good job at what they meant to achieve. Peter Jackson was trying to make a film that would capture the core of The Lord of The Rings in the form of an action adventure movie for everyone, so characterizing Sauron as a physical, armored soldier made the threat feel real, powerful, and fully fleshed out without the need of greater description. Mass audiences can resonate more with a physical entity of great power that looks, acts, and feel scary and dominating. I find it quite silly and a little over the top for Tolkien's world, but for a movie made for the sole purpose of being a movie, I think they made the right choice.

I can't help but suspect that Jacksson was trying to invoke Morgoth with that design. After all we know that guy fights with a powerfull mace.
 
While I agree the depiction of Sauron in Jackson's films are not true to Tolkien's works, but I think they did a good job at what they meant to achieve. Peter Jackson was trying to make a film that would capture the core of The Lord of The Rings in the form of an action adventure movie for everyone, so characterizing Sauron as a physical, armored soldier made the threat feel real, powerful, and fully fleshed out without the need of greater description. Mass audiences can resonate more with a physical entity of great power that looks, acts, and feel scary and dominating. I find it quite silly and a little over the top for Tolkien's world, but for a movie made for the sole purpose of being a movie, I think they made the right choice.

As for the physical eye at the top of Barad-dur, I again find it silly and an over exaggeration of Tolkien's description, but again, for the sake of the film, a physical eye makes the threat of Sauron feel real. In the book, Sauron's influence is there in spirit and that works great for Tolkien's world, but in the movie's it feels like Sauron is there and he is here in physical form and he is gathering strength and will soon return to this other physical brute like form that was shown at the start of the film.

I do not deny that PJ's depiction of Sauron is a little absurd and somewhat goofy, but I also think that it makes the story feel more important to mass audiences who came to see these films as just that, films.
The thing is, if PJ wanted to just make an entertaining movie, ok, he did it.

But if he wanted to show Tolkien to masses, he failed miserably. If I haven't read the books and would have not clue what they are showing. Even rings of power does a better job showing what Sauron is (with all the inaccuracies).

The PJ movies are just some action movies, well filmed, I give him that, but with completely incoherent story lines, with non-sense after non-sense and failing completely to show what the characters are.

Be honest, try to forget what you read in the books, do the movies make any sense? I think not. To be fair, it's difficult to fully understand even the books without reading the Silmarillion and the appendices but still, you do get a sense of what it is about, even if you don't know the true nature of Sauron, or what the elves really are, that's a result of books being published out of order regarding the events, you start at the end and many things are unexplained, but PJ didn't even attempt to explain anything, and it could have been done without resulting to absurd depictions.

And please, don't get me started about the hobbit trilogy.
 
But if he wanted to show Tolkien to masses, he failed miserably. If I haven't read the books and would have not clue what they are showing. Even rings of power does a better job showing what Sauron is (with all the inaccuracies).

Really? You know that after the fall of Númenor Sauron was forever stuck in a balrog like black form. Honestly along with the movie design in the Lord of the Rings prologue and his depictions in the Hobbit films these are pretty much the only depictions of him that I can tolerate after the flood of Númenor.

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Yeah, I know the last one is just a slightly alternative design for Disney's version of the Horned King but honestly it look far better than most depictions of Sauron in the latter part of the second age. Don't even get me started on how many end up just depicting Sauron and Morgoth as orcs with red eyes.

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I don't imagine Sauron like that at all, not an angry ogre, balrog or some monster.

Dark? yes, terrible? yes, he would be scary and intimidating but not an ugly monster, neither would Morgoth.

Actually, I don't think the first depiction of Sauron in the first movie was all that wrong, it's the eye I have a problem with.
 

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