How 🧝Elrond obtained Vilya, his ring.........

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In "The Encyclopedia of Arda", http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm, under Elrond, it says that he was given Vilya by Gil-Galad just after founding Rivendell. This was when Tar-Minyataur had defeated Sauron and brought him back to Numenor. I thought Elrond obtained Vilya after Gil-Galad was slain in the Last Alliance? Why would Gil-Galad just give him a ring of power? And since Gil-Galad was the High King of the Noldor in Middle Earth, why didn't Elrond become this when Gil-Galad died?

 

[Anamatar IV]

Gil-Galad cant give a ring AFTER he's dead

Gil-Galad gave it to Elrond before he died and I dont know why.

 

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Anmatar, the key word there is "OBTAINED from Gil-Galad after he was slain." You know, like he took it off Gil-Galad's quivering smoky dead carcass.......

 

[Celebthôl]

He gave it to him before the last alliance when Elrond got put incharge of Imladris, then they both marched to war afterwards (didnt Gil-Galad have like 2 ofthe rings)?

 

[Maeglin]

No, Gil-Galad only had one: Vilya, Galadriel had Nenya, and Cirdan had Narya.

 

[Celebthôl]

no someone i 4get who gave his to Gil-galad and then Gil-galad had two he gave one to Cídan and one to Elrond

 

[Maeglin]

Ohhh well if you mean who made them that was Celebrimbor.

 

[pohuist]

Originally posted by Anamatar IV
Gil-Galad gave it to Elrond before he died and I dont know why.

Ever heard about not putting all of your eggs into 1 basket?

 

[Ithrynluin]

Gil-Galad gave his ring to Elrond when the latter set out to found Rivendell (SA 1697). It is likely that Elrond received it because:
1. Elrond needed some enhancement in building Rivendell, fortifying it, and (possibly) permeating it with magical properties.
2. He was a mighty elf, powerful and knowledgable, and thus eligible for keeping a ring of power (to enhance his already great powers).

Narya was given to Círdan when Gil-Galad set out for the War of the Last Alliance.

 

[Rúmil]

I think that over and above the reasons already stated, Gil-Galad probably foresaw that he would come to grief during the war with Sauron (remeber that the end of the XVIIth century II was a peak in the wars with Sauron, to the point that they were only saved by the timely intervention of Númenorean admiral Ciryatur), whoich did in the event come true. This being another element of Tolkien's theme 'you always have to sacrifice something to achieve victory', etc.

 

[Húrin Thalion]

And of your last question Link:

And since Gil-Galad was the High King of the Noldor in Middle Earth, why didn't Elrond become this when Gil-Galad died?

Didn't he? It is not much noticed because there were not many Noldor left.

Húrin thalion

 

[Beruthiel]

IMHO, Elrond became the de facto "leader" of the remnant of the Noldor remaining in ME after the Last Alliance, but he was not High King of the Noldor.

While Elrond was related to Gil-Galad, of course, since his great-grandfather Turgon and Gil-Galad's father, Fingon, were brothers, it may be that since Elrond wasn't in the direct line of succession, he wasn't named High King. Also, it's kind of hard to be king when you don't have all that many people to be king over!