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Lord of the Rings on Prime Updates (Thanks Varking!)

By the way, I also find it interesting that the forum moderators seem to only give likes to series "shills" but not to series critics.
Where in Arda have you found series "shills" in this forum?!?
Unless by "shills" you mean those who refuse to chime in to your monotonous "woke political propaganda" bleating. 🐑
You should be the first front line in defending the original, not the henchmen of some globalist corporation that just wants to make money and doesn't give Tolkien the respect he deserves.
That's a typical example of your thunderously arrogant postings here. We are more than capable of making our own decisions without needing the slightest "help" from you. That old, wearisome "if you're not with us, you're against us" mental diarrhea?

There were and apparently remain two huge misconceptions on the fringes (?) of the supposed political spectrum:

1) You don't have to be a fascist to be anti-communist
2) You don't have to be a communist to be anti-fascist

Concepts that don't fit into an authoritarian-to-totalitarian mindset of whatever ilk, admittedly.
 
There are a few more or less good ones. Not all of them are book adaptations, but from my point of view rather successful fantasy films. But they are just a bit older.
Yes, old films are often better than new ones. Modern sequels to old franchises seldom turn out to be successful. I've got a meme on the topic. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

I appreciate that Squint-eyed Southerner liked that post.
As I remember, Squint-eyed Southerner liked some of my posts where I criticize Amazon too. I'm grateful to him for that.
monotonous "woke political propaganda" bleating. 🐑
I didn't know that "bleating" is a term for the point of view that is different from yours.
 
I'll just say it can come to seem so, when used as a one-note, repetitive term of sweeping condemnation, as you can see here, and on other threads on the series.
 
I didn't know that "bleating" is a term for the point of view that is different from yours.
I'll just say it can come to seem so, when used as a one-note, repetitive term of sweeping condemnation, as you can see here, and on other threads on the series.
S-eS pretty much always puts things more nicely than I do.
Annatar has stated his viewpoint far more often than was necessary for us to "get it" - that is bleating.
You should be the first front line in defending the original, not the henchmen of some globalist corporation that just wants to make money and doesn't give Tolkien the respect he deserves.
And this post of his makes it clear that he has serious difficulties not just with different opinions - his and those of most frequent posters here on TTF are not that far apart in fundamentals, a fact that seems to utterly escape him - no, he seems to feel the need to lecture members here that would run circles around him in things JRRT on what "true Tolkien fandom" is. As far as I'm concerned, his view on "true Tolkien fandom" is a highly warped one, and one that leads him, if one does not unreservedly share it, to utterly baseless accusations in post after post.

I can summarize my reaction to the by now utterly tedious repetitions of his viewpoint (which he is free to state - always with the caveat that he respects the forum rules, which everyone who registers as a member does in a contractual sense - and no, he does not decide what the rules mean, another fact that seems to utterly escape him) in two words:

Shove It. 👿
 
*Checks to see what planet I'm on when finding I am in almost complete agreement with the Gandolorian*

Yeah, it seems that particular 'collective-mindset' can't help themselves repeatedly bringing up one or more of the five (long-deleted) usual talking-points I listed. The term 'bleating' fits perfectly. I'm leaving this one.
 
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*Checks to see what planet I'm on when finding I am in almost complete agreement with the Gandolorian*
🤣🤣🤣👍
Yeah, it seems that particular 'collective-mindset' can't help themselves repeatedly bringing up one or more of the five (long-deleted) usual talking-points I listed. The term 'bleating' fits perfectly.
I just remembered another animal noise, one that had been nagging at the back of my head as being in JRRT's writing, if posthumous.
Yep, on page 3 of the "Ainulindalë" in the published "Silmarillion":

"... but it was loud, and vain, and endlessly repeated; and it had little harmony, but rather a clamorous unison as of many trumpets braying upon a few notes." 😈😈😈
 
I didn't realize i was being paid for boosting the series, my bank hasn't been notified :-D. I have no problem with people criticizing the series. As I've stated previously, politics was outlawed on TTF long before this series was conceived, for obvious reasons, so we plan on maintaining those rules. If you're here discussing the series, positively or negatively, great please do I want to read it. If you're going to start discussing political "wokeness" it's not welcome here. It's not a hard concept and it's not hard to just not post. Those types of topics are not in line with our rules. We've already had a few casualties due to breaking these rules and we're not afraid to have more if rules continue to be broken.

EA's non-mod thoughts on the show:

Honestly, I think it will be a good fantasy series. A good representation of Tolkien's universe? probably not. I could care less what color the actor and actresses skin is because I'm watching the show for the quality of the story. No matter the race of the person behind the character, if they are a bad actor then sure, I'll criticize them. But I won't be doing so because they're not how I imagine a character from a fictional universe to look. If I don't like it, I'll turn it off, simple as that.
 
The funny thing is that this time I didn't say anything about "wokeness" at all, but had talked about the nonsensical names from a linguistic perspective.
For me this rather shows that with certain people here a meaningful discussion is not possible at all.
So who is really caught in a political permanent loop here? For some, criticism of the series now seems generally synonymous with right-wing extremism.
And with people like Halesian and Olorgando, it's clear to see that they have long since reached an arrogance level beyond good and evil, while their common sense must have flown away at some point. Congratulations! 👍

So again, I want to make it clear that "wokeness" is not the only reason, nor is it the main reason, why I already despise this series (though it may stand out the most obviously, and many other points are intertwined with it). It is miserable on so many different levels. And it makes no sense to keep reducing every other criticism to the wokeness issue. I absolutely agree that all opinions have already been exchanged multiple times on that point (just maybe not yet by everyone ).
 
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With any luck, the series Annatar will be transgender, as they may interpret it as Sauron being able to transform once as a man and once as a woman, as needed.
With that, I will then denounce any contradictions to my postings on the forum as transphobic and political!
 
For some, criticism of the series now seems generally synonymous with right-wing extremism.
Maybe you and all who are criticizing "the series" need to be reminded that it premieres on 02 September of this year. So unless anyone here was actually involved in the production, any talk about "the series" is inane blather. A one-minute trailer, that awful "Superfans" gaffe (truly disastrous), other snippets that I simply don't give 💩 about (my attitude to the series as a whole, basically). They all certainly don't bode well, to put it mildly. But the constant drone about "political agenda" and the rest is something basically you (and those two who have thankfully departed) keep dragging in. So perhaps you're not a right-wing extremist (or racist). Point is, many who are ceaselessly braying on such topics are. So maybe you need to think a bit about the "company you keep" verbally.

But the main reason I'm tearing into you is your also almost ceaseless, and baseless, innuendos and attacks on all who won't follow your warped views.

With that, I will then denounce any contradictions to my postings ...
This seems to be your main problem, contradictions. You seem to be able to deal with them (not) as "gracefully" as a politician whose presence in the news has mercifully dwindled greatly, if not nearly enough.
 
Maybe you and all who are criticizing "the series" need to be reminded that it premieres on 02 September of this year.
No, I noticed that this series deliberately starts on the anniversary of Tolkien's death.

So perhaps you're not a right-wing extremist (or racist). Point is, many who are ceaselessly braying on such topics are.
How do you know? Have you ever considered that maybe most of them aren't really like that (although the mainstream media likes to claim they are) and maybe even criticize these points for entirely different, even very plausible, reasons?
You'd complain just the same when anyone who defends this Amazon nonsense is labeled as a left-wing extremist. Maybe you're right that we, as Tolkien connoisseurs, are actually not that far apart and that this only escalates to the extreme in the course of the discussion. However, no matter what your political leanings, the series contributes to divisiveness simply because it's also quite obviously politically motivated. Anyone who denies this is living in their own bubble. And although I criticize Peter Jackson in many ways, at least his films were not political.

For me, two of the most important requirements for Tolkien film adaptations are a) to be as faithful as possible to the books (if it makes sense dramaturgically due to the time constraints - and that is, for example, the reason why I have not yet commented too negatively on the topic of time compression, which will be very important in the future - and b) to keep contemporary politics out of it so that the immersion is preserved.
Especially immersion is very important. So, for example, I get equally upset when the naming is sloppy and not Tolkien-worthy, even though everyone knows how immensely important language and names were to Tolkien.
So why can't we discuss it here? Instead, it was unfairly reduced to the topic of "wokeism" by alleged Tolkien connoisseurs. I honestly find it outrageous.
I'm still waiting for a factual answer.

This seems to be your main problem, contradictions.
Well, you're extremely German, since irony is probably a foreign concept to you (and what you are quoting here was definitely meant ironically). It seems that you smell a Nazi in anyone who expresses the slightest criticism of wokeism and the series in general. You have been very well conditioned there by our mainstream media. Of course, this also fits your hatred of Trump. We already had an exchange via PM on this, and we probably won't get any further there either. But please turn your brain back on when it comes to other topics.

But actually I didn't want to end in such a negative way. I'm fed up with these political discussions. The problem is that the series is very political. But well, we now know our attitude towards it and should now try to avoid the subject if possible, although it is also clear that it will at least occasionally come up again and again. And it was of course very important to examine this aspect in detail. (I'm also sure there will be more heated discussions on other platforms in general in the future.)

I would wish for mutual tolerance here, so that we can deal with other important issues. Like in this case, for example, the mentioned, strange naming, which suggests that the authors had not dealt intensively with Tolkien (while the prop designers apparently did). So I offer this as a bridge to find a way back to rationality.

Edit: Nearly all my posts are "ennobled" by a "LOL reaction" from that sick stalker dude named Halasian, who has obviously lost all contact with reality. Others would see it as notorious bullying. What's wrong with you, guy? 😹 Hope he's getting some professional help. In any case, it has become a kind of seal of approval for me, so please continue.
 
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If these personal attacks and insults continue, this thread will have to be locked again.

Keep the discussion civil.
 
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