Lord of the Rings on Prime Updates (Thanks Varking!)

Squint-eyed Southerner · Dec 31, 2019

Miguel said:
I want Harrison Ford to be in this show please.

If he gets any more haggard-looking, he'd do for Hurin Released.

Miguel · Dec 31, 2019

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
If he gets any more haggard-looking, he'd do for Hurin Released.

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Hell yeah!

Squint-eyed Southerner · Dec 31, 2019

Of course, that's First Age material, so apparently out.

Gabriel Perry · Jan 2, 2020

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
I'm wondering if they're going with invented characters because it gives latitude for "new" stories, or because of some constraints from the estate on the use of canon. Anyone know?

I've heard that they were going to be basing it roughly off of the Silmarillion... but I wouldn't put much be that.

Quick answer.... Is it even worth watching in any sense? Even if you have to throw out the possibility of it being canon?

Olorgando · Jan 3, 2020

Gabriel Perry said:
Quick answer.... Is it even worth watching in any sense? Even if you have to throw out the possibility of it being canon?

There are basically three groups of viewer:
The book-first set, by tendency older on average (it has been 18 years since "Fellowship" premiered), including the hard-core book nerds, many critical of PJ.
The film-first set who felt motivated by the films to go take a look at the book sources, with varying results; some may have also become book nerds.
The film-only set, whose only "knowledge" of "book-canon" is derived by the harangues of the book nerds on sites like this, perhaps also in print and TV.
I see no reason why the third set, at the very least, might not (edit: oops!) be eagerly anticipating the Amazon series.
As I mentioned elsewhere, there are aspects of the six films over both books in which PJ and the entire crew did an amazing job (some CGI from LoTR might look a bit dated by now). So the template against which the Amazon series will be measured by the film-only set is PJ's double trilogy.
As I posted above (oh - on Christmas Eve my time - and very early in the morning ...) that could be a tall order for Amazon ...

Gabriel Perry · Jan 3, 2020

Olorgando said:
There are basically three groups of viewer:
The book-first set, by tendency older on average (it has been 18 years since "Fellowship" premiered), including the hard-core book nerds, many critical of PJ.
The film-first set who felt motivated by the films to go take a look at the book sources, with varying results; some may have also become book nerds.
The film-only set, whose only "knowledge" of "book-canon" is derived by the harangues of the book nerds on sites like this, perhaps also in print and TV.
I see no reason why the third set, at the very least, might be eagerly anticipating the Amazon series.
As I mentioned elsewhere, there are aspects of the six films over both books in which PJ and the entire crew did an amazing job (some CGI from LoTR might look a bit dated by now). So the template against which the Amazon series will be measured by the film-only set is PJ's double trilogy.
As I posted above (oh - on Christmas Eve my time - and very early in the morning ...) that could be a tall order for Amazon ...

Good answer, thanks. I'll probably try it apprehensively.

CirdanLinweilin · Jan 3, 2020

Halasían said:
I would venture to say that we have gotten far enough past the PJ FanFix that there are some young teenage folk who are discovering Lord if the Rings from the books again. I had a discussion with a couple!

Never thought I would be hearing that in my young Twenty-Three year life.

CL

Squint-eyed Southerner · Jan 15, 2020

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CirdanLinweilin · Jan 15, 2020

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
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Interesting.......cast.

CL

StarGift · Jan 19, 2020

I would venture to say that we have gotten far enough past the PJ FanFix that there are some young teenage folk who are discovering Lord if the Rings from the books again. I had a discussion with a couple! This is a good thing that will likely be ruined by this Middle Amazon Earth fanfic coming up.
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Yes there are. I am one of those "young teenage folk" you know we should think of the PJ movies as fanfics. They're like fanfics where "what if the hobbits never met Bombadil?" "What if Faramir was super rude and kept them in basically a prison cell?" What if" "what if"...

Olorgando · Jan 19, 2020

Varking said:
Just so everyone is aware the new show is getting a social media presence and we have a new map to look at that may or may not provide clues as to when the new series could take place.
Current Map:

I need some search help here.
I have this bee in my bonnet that somewhere on TTF there must be a thread which may also show this map, but definitely shows several others.
It might be that rather than the other maps being explicitly shown as Varking did with this one, the post contained a link to another site where the actual other maps are shown (some for all of Middle-earth, with Aman pre-downfall-of-Númenor still on the left edge, IIRC).
Does anyone remember which thread this might have been, if it existed at all?

Many thanks in advance. 🤔🤔🤔

NerdoftheRings · Feb 7, 2020

Wanted to share a video I just released on my YouTube channel, highlighting everything Sauron was up to in the Second Age. Thought it might be of interest as we look forward to the Amazon series and some more Sauron action!

Olorgando · Feb 8, 2020

NerdoftheRings said:
Wanted to share a video I just released on my YouTube channel, highlighting everything Sauron was up to in the Second Age. Thought it might be of interest as we look forward to the Amazon series and some more Sauron action!

Not a bad summary … with a handful of "factual" (aka as contra-"canon", with all the ambiguities of that term) errors, but certainly far fewer than Peter Jacksom committed in his LoTR film trilogy.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Mar 3, 2020

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Or is it? That article says "5 months ago", but there are a bunch of breathless news pieces saying "28 minutes ago". I don't know -- I haven't been keeping up.

Olorgando · Mar 4, 2020

The only name I recognized in the whole article was "J.R.R. Tolkien". But then I have trouble recognizing the names of participants in German film and TV productions since about the turn of the millennium, so I am not surprised. 😶

CirdanLinweilin · Mar 4, 2020

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
The Latest Gossip:

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Or is it? That article says "5 months ago", but there are a bunch of breathless news pieces saying "28 minutes ago". I don't know -- I haven't been keeping up.

Who?

CL

Squint-eyed Southerner · Mar 4, 2020

OK -- so we're all out of touch?

CirdanLinweilin · Mar 4, 2020

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
OK -- so we're all out of touch?

I don't watch much TV so yep.

CL

Olorgando · Mar 4, 2020

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
OK -- so we're all out of touch?

CirdanLinweilin said:
I don't watch much TV so yep.
CL

The two of us should be heaving sighs of relief that it's not just us borderline dementia old coots that are confused, Virginian (OT: wasn't there a TV show in the 1960s titled "The Virginian"? I have no inkling (!) if I am insulting you or making you nostalgic with this comment ...). CirdanL is ten years away from Hobbit coming-of-age, or five years younger than Pippin at the beginning of "Fellowship". And I must say that, compared to what we are able to receive as unencoded TV (mainly public channels HD), there seems to be a vast sector of encoded stuff (as I noticed during sorting of the enforced scan I had to do about a year ago), and that exclude streaming ...

CirdanLinweilin · Mar 4, 2020

Olorgando said:
The two of us should be heaving sighs of relief that it's not just us borderline dementia old coots that are confused, Virginian (OT: wasn't there a TV show in the 1960s titled "The Virginian"? I have no inkling (!) if I am insulting you or making you nostalgic with this comment ...). CirdanL is ten years away from Hobbit coming-of-age, or five years younger than Pippin at the beginning of "Fellowship". And I must say that, compared to what we are able to receive as unencoded TV (mainly public channels HD), there seems to be a vast sector of encoded stuff (as I noticed during sorting of the enforced can I had to do about a year ago), and that exclude streaming ...

I think that was a western show, actually.

And yeah, exactly ten years from age Hobbit age.

CL

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