Agreed. The higher costs of the hardcover books, is my guess, made them commercially viable at much lower printings - probably up to today.I agree with your comments about cost, literacy, etc, but whether a book has mass appeal is relative to the culture at the time, in other words it is comparative and not absolute. The authors I mentioned were immensely popular and had a huge influence. They had their works translated into multiple languages, which demonstrates that (even given the higher relative cost of books) there was sufficient "mass market" appeal to make it commercially viable.
Good point. There would have been a big difference between popularity and book sales.
Too long, too many plots, - but i honestly haven’t heard of the “Shakespearean” argument. I honestly think it could be that it’s starting to become more normal for us as a society to have shorter attention spans. I do get that not every book out there is for everyone though, and that (unfortunately to us) also includes LOTR.So, Lord Of The Rings have been my favorite novel since I was 6. I read them every year or so and my family, friends, and even acquaintances usually say the same thing... "why"?
I usually go through a lengthy explanation, and I always end it with recommending it. Then they continue to state that they do not enjoy the writing style for the book. I find that one of the most annoying comments about LOTR is that it uses "old timey english", like Shakespearean (which obviously does not).
The most popular quote as of late is Gandalf (in FOTR) stating “So do I, and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” (clearly not Shakespearean...)
So what are some other common excuses for people not wanting to read this novel that you guys have heard?
I would add they also like 'mindless action.' That is, stuff requiring nothing of them - nothing making them think, or ponder, or question, or wonder. This is also not Tolkien.Everyone now likes nonstop action, and new action,
Classic examples of others who go beyond spoon-feeding.Dickens or Wilkie Collin’s or Conan Doyle.
I'm quite certain that publishers back then (and those teaching writing classes of whatever format and level of education; often literary critics at the same time) would have used LotR as a case study of almost every no-no an author can commit. "Do not write this way!"I wonder how Tolkien’s prose would rate in a writing class. Not very well, I fear. Very sad indeed.
I can actually confirm this - I've studied English language and literature at uni, and our writing class professor literally said "Do not write like Tolkien did". 💀I'm quite certain that publishers back then (and those teaching writing classes of whatever format and level of education; often literary critics at the same time) would have used LotR as a case study of almost every no-no an author can commit. "Do not write this way!"
Something between 100 and 200 million copies sold later, what does that tell up about publishers, "writing teachers", and critics? 😈😈😈😈😈
This is some sort of scheme hatched between these filthy dwarves and those miserable tub-trading Lakemen, those snivelling cowards with their Longbows and Black Arrows! Perhaps it is time I paid them a visit!our writing class professor literally said "Do not write like Tolkien did". 💀
Did you happen to read the Hobbit when you were a child ("Child" is very broad... at what age did you attempt LOTR?).I think I can try and answer this based on personal experience, as I tried to read LOTR as a child and gave up, before returning to it many years later. The problem I found wasn't that it took a long time to get started - in fact, almost the opposite, as I loved (and still love) the early Shire chapters, Tom Bombadil, Elrond, etc. No, I stumbled at The Two Towers as it just seemed to start dragging at that point - long sections where it felt like just people riding about the place, then a long, long journey to Mordor with Frodo, Sam and Gollum with not much happening. (That's what it felt like anyway).
So basically I would agree that people feel it's just too long, as that's certainly what I felt. Compare it to something like Alan Garner's Elidor, which I loved as a child, and which throws you into a richly immersive fantasy story and yet is only about a hundred pages long and can be read in a day.
Can you recall the reason(s) he gave for his apparently arbitrary directive?
I agree with him if one is writing, say, an article for a journal, or an op-ed.Unfortunately it's been 15 years since I've walked out of uni so I only really remember his dislike towards Tolkien's writing style in general because he mentioned it a lot as a negative example. I think it had to do with the "long-windedness" or something. He always told us to keep things brief and to the point when writing.
I'm that rare exception.not so sure LOTR could be read and appreciated by a kid under 12, with rare exception
How old were you when you read it?I'm that rare exception.
I was 10How old were you when you read it?
And I'm anotherI'm that rare exception.
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