Silmarillion Movie

CirdanLinweilin · May 16, 2018

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
Oh, I'm just joshing.

I can't blame someone else, if I can't control myself!

Alright, cool bro.

CL

Squint-eyed Southerner · May 17, 2018

Apologies, CL, you've made me change (or is it lose?) my mind: you got me curious enough to browse some of the old movie threads. I only say LOL when it really happens, which is rarely, but one post gave me two such moments:*

1. "Sauron the Evil Lighthouse".

2. (On the Dead at MT):
"What? Scrubbing Bubbles kill Mumakil?".

So thanks for that. Or something.

*So much so that I actually had a hard time typing this!

CirdanLinweilin · May 17, 2018

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
Apologies, CL, you've made me change (or is it lose?) my mind: you got me curious enough to browse some of the old movie threads. I only say LOL when it really happens, which is rarely, but one post gave me two such moments:*

1. "Sauron the Evil Lighthouse".

2. (On the Dead at MT):
"What? Scrubbing Bubbles kill Mumakil?".

So thanks for that. Or something.

*So much so that I actually had a hard time typing this!

Welcome. The pleasure is all mine.

Squint-eyed Southerner · May 17, 2018

It appears there have been some real wits here, over the years.

Let's hope some of them return when the TV series begins!

CirdanLinweilin · May 17, 2018

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
It appears there have been some real wits here, over the years.

Let's hope some of them return when the TV series begins!

We can only hope...

*Stares dreamily off into the West...*

P.S. When the show does get underway, will there be a new section added to the Fora where it has the LOTR and Hobbit trilogies? Or will it just be discussed in Other Related Topics. I've been curious about that.

CL

Squint-eyed Southerner · May 17, 2018

Well, it did happen with the Hobbit movie forum. And though I don't know, it looks as if a number of threads got moved there when that was created.

I imagine something similar will happen with the series, but maybe one of the long-suffering staff members can tell us.

Tyler Eaton · Jun 7, 2018

elladan said:
I understand that the Silmarillion as a whole occurs over too long of a time period and has too many main characters for it ever to be a movie. But there is one part of it that I believe could be a adapted into a very good movie. That is the story of Beren and Luthien. Of all the stories in the Silmarillion, this would require the least back story and it follows just two characters over a relatively short period of time. And the story itself is amazing, probably my favorite in the book. Plus, it has some semblance of a happy ending, unlike just about all the other tales in the Sil. The story of Turin would make a good movie too, but it would be far too depressing! I think a Beren and Luthien movie could work, and I know I would love to see it on screen.

Any thoughts?

As somebody who works in television, I feel like a story of this size would have to be on TV, most likely on HBO, ala 'Game of Thrones'. There's just too much to squeeze into a movie, even a trilogy unless you take one tiny piece of it like Paul Thomas Anderson did with adaption 'Oil!' into 'There Will Be Blood'.

Halasían · Jun 7, 2018

Tyler Eaton said:
As somebody who works in television, I feel like a story of this size would have to be on TV, most likely on HBO, ala 'Game of Thrones'. There's just too much to squeeze into a movie, even a trilogy unless you take one tiny piece of it like Paul Thomas Anderson did with adaption 'Oil!' into 'There Will Be Blood'.

Yes, it would have to be done in seasonal chapters, where part of the tale is explored through the episodes of that season.

Anyway, maybe in my lifetime there will be a Silmarillion TV mini-series.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Jun 10, 2018

Although Beren and Luthien, or the Tale of Turin Turambar, could make epic self-contained movies.

The latter would be something of a downer, admittedly! I'm not sure how audiences would react to that one.

Ithilethiel · Jun 11, 2018

Halasían said:
Sadly, with the latest words I hear about the Amazon TV series, it will seem that NOTHING Middle Earth related can be brought to movie or TV screens without PJ having his hand in it.

Rhaich!

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
Apologies, CL, you've made me change (or is it lose?) my mind: you got me curious enough to browse some of the old movie threads. I only say LOL when it really happens, which is rarely, but one post gave me two such moments:*

1. "Sauron the Evil Lighthouse".

2. (On the Dead at MT):
"What? Scrubbing Bubbles kill Mumakil?".

So thanks for that. Or something.

*So much so that I actually had a hard time typing this!

Scrubbing Bubbles! The Evil Lighthouse! I love it!

CirdanLinweilin · Jun 11, 2018

Ithilethiel said:
Rhaich!

Gesundheit.

CL

octoburn · Jun 11, 2018

Tyler Eaton said:
As somebody who works in television, I feel like a story of this size would have to be on TV, most likely on HBO, ala 'Game of Thrones'. There's just too much to squeeze into a movie, even a trilogy unless you take one tiny piece of it like Paul Thomas Anderson did with adaption 'Oil!' into 'There Will Be Blood'.

I said for a while that I would approach it the way the Dark Tower books are being adapted (but closer adaptations ) into films AND tv. But now I think the interconnectedness of the story would make the tv seasons disjointed from the films (plus, some of the films would actually overlap and it could be very complicated story-wise) and think that if done on film, it should be all television series. But it would take a budget twice that of Game of Thrones to deliver the Silmarillion properly to the screen.

Because of the budget issue, I am currently working on a pitch to adapt it into the Graphic Novel format.

Ithilethiel · Jun 11, 2018

CirdanLinweilin said:
Gesundheit.

CL

Heehee

Squint-eyed Southerner · Jun 11, 2018

Ithilethiel said:
Scrubbing Bubbles! The Evil Lighthouse! I love it!

Now I can't find the post where those appeared! Oh well. . .

MidnightStorm · Jun 21, 2018

I honestly don’t think The Silmarillion as a movie would work out too well. It is perhaps more of a history rather then a story. If they did make a movie of it, I’d hope they stick to the proper story (probably not) and not do something like The Hobbit movies.
Beren and Luthien could work as a movie, if they portrayed the characters right; however, it would be quite hard to accurately display Luthien on screen.

Ithilethiel · Jun 21, 2018

MidnightStorm said:
I honestly don’t think The Silmarillion as a movie would work out too well. It is perhaps more of a history rather then a story. If they did make a movie of it, I’d hope they stick to the proper story (probably not) and not do something like The Hobbit movies.
Beren and Luthien could work as a movie, if they portrayed the characters right; however, it would be quite hard to accurately display Luthien on screen.

I agree MidnightStorm. As much as we fans long to see it done right even CT had his own difficulties with compiling the book as his father had been continuously evolving and altering the work as his stories developed through the years. There are disharmonies with certain tales and inconsistencies with certain characters. The book took on a life of its own so what is easier to accept by devotees who understand these issues in the hands of a say, Peter Jackson would be a disaster.

It is possible to maintain consistency within individual lore but there still remains the issue of being true to the spirit of the tale. A much more difficult undertaking. So as SeS likes to say, I'm paraphrasing, be careful what you wish for.

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