What if Lúthien had been "ugly"?

[Legolas_lover12]

 

[Gil-Galad]

Legolas_lover12,although it's true,I know that you're not from that group.

 

[Legolas_lover12]

repeating urself aren't we.

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repeating urself aren't we.

 

[Gil-Galad]

aha......but tell something more interesting to do in 05:33a.m?

 

[Legolas_lover12]

WoW. it's only 9:47 pm here!!!!!

 

[Khamul]

Personally I feel that Morgoth would have ignored her if she had been ugly. He was more interested in having a 'thrall' than in her personality. He was enchanted by her dancing, and without her, Beren would never have come close to succeeding. (Being a Half-Valar can help in some hard spots.)

But, they were bound by a one fate to be together, to unite the two races, to show to both Elves and Men of what they can achieve together. Instead of taking heed, they continued to kill, and Feanor's sons did not take back the oath.

Edit: Forgot to add this little bit:

Again she fled, but swift he came.
Tinuviel! Tinuviel!
He called her by her elvish name;
And there she halted listening.
One moment stood she, and a spell
His voice laid on her: Beren came,
And doom fell on Tinuviel
That in his arms lay glistening.

As Beren looked into her eyes
Within the shadows of her hair,
The trembling starlight of the skies
He saw there mirrored shimmering.
Tinuviel the elven-fair,
Immortal maiden elven-wise,
About him cast her shadowy hair
And arms like silver glimmering.

Long was the way that fate them bore,
O'er stony mountains cold and grey,
Through halls of iron and darkling door,
And woods of nightshade morrowless.
The Sundering Seas between them lay,
And yet at last they met once more,
And long ago they passed away
In the forest singing sorrowless.

 

[Gil-Galad]

Sting,you're right.she was really hot as I said.Morgoth thought some very very bad things when he saw her,because of her beauty.

 

[Naurwen]

What if Luthien had been "ugly"

It's like a fairy tale all the good people are hansome and beautiful so it's just tipicall that theres something like that on it.

 

[LúthienTinúviel]

No doubt that her beauty was an asset, but to attribute all Lúthien's power to that outer beauty is both shallow and sexist. Tolkien would not have wanted "Lúthien" carved into his wife's gravestone if beauty was all Lúthien had going for her.

 

[Legolas_lover12]

he had "luthien carved on his wife's gravestone???

 

[LúthienTinúviel]

Originally posted by Legolas_lover12
he had "luthien carved on his wife's gravestone???

Yes indeed he did.

Grave Picture

 

[Legolas_lover12]

awwwwwwww. that is SO sweet.

 

[Elenaelin]

I personally belive that the general storyline would not have been changed if Luthien had been ugly. Beren still would have fallen in love with her bcc. he was attracted by her song, hence him crying "Tinuviel, Tinuviel" (nightengale) as vs. to "Hey hot stuff!" when first sighting her under starlight. Her power and beauty is in her song. More proof of this exists in the fact that she used her song to A.) charm Morgoth in to sleeping to steal a silmaril; and B.) she so enchanted Mandos that he let Luthien and Beren leave his halls and return to Ossiriand in Middle Earth. The thing that makes me wonder- What if Luthien lost her voice when singing Morgoth to sleep?

 

[Gil-Galad]

Originally posted by LúthienTinúviel
No doubt that her beauty was an asset, but to attribute all Lúthien's power to that outer beauty is both shallow and sexist. Tolkien would not have wanted "Lúthien" carved into his wife's gravestone if beauty was all Lúthien had going for her.

Heheh....I confessed you're the most beautiful creature in ME.But isn't it enough?Now you want to be the creature with best features in ME!!!WOW that's too much I think.