Yule-tide in Eriador - Speculation

Eledhwen said:

It is a well documented fact that Barliman Butterbur wouldn't recognise a king if he turned up at the Pony, ordered a pint and went and sat in the corner smoking a pipe. He is even reported to have refused said king an audience with some of his guests!

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Ah, but we are speaking of kings who are openly recognized and well-advertised, not those who traipse around in mufti!

Barley

Barliman Butterbur said:

Ah, but we are speaking of kings who are openly recognized and well-advertised, not those who traipse around in mufti!
Barley

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Yes, I suppose in those days they didn't reserve the crown and ermine for the State Opening of Parliament; but the signs were there for those who could see them (Eledhwen checks herself as she starts to go off subject).

Does it say anywhere that Hobbits had a Yule Log? It was a big lump of tree taken home and its end shoved into the fire until it was burned up. In these days of central heating it's a log shaped chocolate cake (reminds me of the dragon's tail in Farmer Giles of Ham).

Eledhwen said:

Does it say anywhere that Hobbits had a Yule Log? It was a big lump of tree taken home and its end shoved into the fire until it was burned up. In these days of central heating it's a log shaped chocolate cake (reminds me of the dragon's tail in Farmer Giles of Ham).

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All my sources indicate no "Yule Log" per se, but I'm for anything to do with chocolate cake!

Barley

First day of Winter today - which was the time set for the Yule. I don't know though if today would be 'Yule 1' of the Old Year or 'Yule 2' of the New Year, but I tend toward the latter.

HAPPY YULE!!!

Valandil said:

HAPPY YULE!!!

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Better come by the Pony for free First-Day-of-Winter beer, bread, cheese and the last of this season's apples — or YULE be sorry!

Barley

Re: Yule-tide in Eriador - 21st Dec

21st Dec, 21st June: why do some people call midwinter's/midsummer's day the first day of Winter/Summer? It seems contradictory to me.

Anyways, the days are getting longer

Re: Yule-tide in Eriador - 21st Dec

Eledhwen said:

21st Dec, 21st June: why do some people call midwinter's/midsummer's day the first day of Winter/Summer? It seems contradictory to me.

Anyways, the days are getting longer

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I know what you mean, looking just at the sun. Here in America though, spring is from the Vernal Equinox to the Summer Solstice, summer from the Summer Solstice to the Autumnal Equinox, autumn (also called 'fall' here) is from the Autumnal Equinox to the Winter Solstice and winter from the Winter Solstice to the Vernal Equinox. Is it not so there?

I guess there's sort of a 'lag effect' with heating from the sun (and cooling from it's waning). It certainly gets much colder here a month or two after the winter solstice than it is a month or two before the winter solstice.