CirdanLinweilin
The Wandering Wastrel
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Wow! These are good news, finally! I'm really keen on such philological details. I would like to translate this kind of dialogues into Russian but nobody would ask me.
Sounds good!
Actually, yeah, you are right.I'm not so sure.
It sounds as if they're saying: "look how clever we are, Tolkien would have liked it", as if having the characters speak in iambic pentameter gives the writers licence to ride roughshod over the Legendarium.
Uh-huh. Seems they missed out on the fact that JRRT, while starting his studies in Oxford in "Classics" in 1911, up to taking Honour Moderations in early 1913, then switched to the English School. Alliteration would be more fitting than this classics stuff. This is not the world of Homer, Virgil or any other of the Graeco-Roman rabble. 😒
I even have a problem with Elrond not being raven-haired, “His hair was dark as the shadows of twilight” (Many Meetings). I prefer adaptations to be as faithful to the source as possible.Yes it's very telling.
Out of all the things that are wrong with the series, it's the colour of the actors' skin that bothers them?
These people need to read some Tom Shippey, specifically "The Road to Middle-earth" where he illuminates LoTR through the categories of Northrop Frye.One of the things in the article that struck a odd note for me was the idea that all the heroic characters in LOTR were "middle class".
To be fair, they have a point about class: the story is dominated by individuals from various noble houses of ME, and distinctly middle-class gentlehobbits. Sam is the only working-class main character.One of the things in the article that struck a odd note for me was the idea that all the heroic characters in LOTR were "middle class".
Well the Shire is certainly intended to be a parallel of early 20th century England. Frodo, Bilbo, Merry & Pippin are clearly "gentlemen", i.e. they don't work for a living and have independant incomes, and this would (at that time) define them as middle class. Sam is the only one who actually works, hence "working class".The setting of things based on JRRT's writings is Middle-earth, an imaginary far past of our world.
Folks, this ain't "Seinfeld" or whatever ...
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And it's also not Dallas & Dynasty or the rest of that plague. 🤢