armies

So i read a great essay on the army of the dead found here. Answerer: can the Dead Men (Army of the Dead) kill people? https://terpconnect.umd.edu/~jkeener/tolkien/deadmen.html "There has been considerable pushback from book fans to the depiction of the Dead Men as an essentially invincible...

I recall in The Hobbit that they were VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRY close to duking it out between Thorin, his 11 companions, and Dain and his dwarves on one side and Bard and Thrandil and their guys on the other when luckily the goblins arrived and forced them to join forces to fend them off. But what if...

Hello, I am currently working on a strategy board game that takes place at the end of the third age. For this I need some estimated strengths of the different armies. I have divided the two sides into different factions, here with some estimated numbers, that aren't that useful alone for a...

Hello guys the reason of this thread is because i wish to understand better Sauron's army. Ive watched the movies. But ive heard that the numbers in the movies and those in the books are different. Is that true? If so. How many troops did Sauron had in the Third age? Was Saruman's army better...

The part I didn't like one bit in the third Hobbit film, where you can see the forms of the Ring-wraiths, without their black cloaks. The Nazgûl wore their rings long enough that their physical forms faded away until they had become entirely invisible to mortal eyes. Their black robes gave them...

So, The Battle of the Five Armies. The extended edition tries to improve what is considerably the weakest link in this chain. Now I've heard of scenes that really SHOULD'VE been in this movie: I'll list them: Gandalf talking to Thranduil about the white gems. Bilbo planting his acorn in...

Has anybody seen it yet? I just received it in the mail a few days ago. I'm doing The Hobbit with my grade 7s and I decided to watch it fresh with them for the first time. The only thing I hope for is....PLEASE let there be more of Beorn in the battle! I was SO disappointed to see about 5...

I would like to propose a hypothetical debate. Let's say that for some reason the armies of Orcs and Wargs never appear at the Lonely Mountain. The impending conflict between the Armies of Elves and Laketown Men and the Dwarves of the Iron Hills is not halted and carnage breaks out. The Elves...

Well fellow Tolkien forum-ites. It has been a good 13 years since I started my purist's reviews. As I will not be doing the EEs, and unless Jackson comes out with more Tolkien works to butcher, this will be my last movie review. *sigh* :( It seems like yesterday since I started this journey. To...

It just hit home to me now that when this movie comes out, it will be my last review. I've decided not to review the EEs of The Hobbit so after 13 years, I will ending a legacy of purist reviews. I will have to pull out all the stops on my last one. Going to see it the weekend it comes out. I...

I'm interested in what you all think about Glaurung's position in Angband's military. From what I've read in other threads, the overall feeling seems to be that Morgoth is top dog, with Sauron and Gothmog being equal in rank (i.e. they cannot order each other to do anything and answer only to...

As I was re-reading The Hobbit (yes, I broke down before the movie), I noticed something interesting. The 5 armies at the battle at the end were Elves, Dwarves, Men, Goblins and Wargs. Animals as an army? Yes, apparently. So my question is: ..why weren't the Eagles considered one of...

Aragorn utilized the dead men to aid in the defense of Minas Tirith, which would otherwise have been overwhelmed and defeated. Why did he not hold them to their oath just a wee bit further to help him defeat the armies of Mordor at Morannon? ;)

Okay, first off, you must realize Tolkien only gave a few definite numbers for the Siege of Gondor/Battle of Pelennor Fields. But he did leave hints that we can figure out, which I hope to do here. I have here many quotes for our use and my arguments as to numbers at the battle. -200 Axe men...

Right, well it seems we might need a OOc thread, as Maggot wants to play a eagle, and with more of us it seems our little group of people might want to sort things out. I want us to go north, and see what we can do to the northmen using the dwarves, or I would not mind sauron (who is in...

Gorm stood in the darkness of the mine. Khazad-dum, now moria, was theres. At tonights victory feast they would come, the forces of darkness would come. The light of a torch lit the hallway and a troll lumbured in. They were coming.

Simply stated could legolas been there?

First off the movie was fantastic and wildly entertaining, as I always do I looked at the movie from the military point of view and compared it with the book. First, the enemy host of Easterlings and orcs astride the road to Rohan through the Druadan forest was missing from the movie (as were...

Hi guys! I was just wondering: In the book, Aragorn releases the Dead Army after defeating the opponent on the ships.. In the film he releases them after winning the battle at Minas Tirith.. (Is more logical I think) But.. why didn't he wanted to let the Dead fight in Mordor? When a...

In the movie there are 200,000 orcs at Minas Tirith correct? What doesnt make sense to me is when Gandalf says that there are 10,000 orcs between Frodo and Mt. Doom. Shouldnt there be a bunch more in Mordor? And at the last battle, I cannot remember very well (I was tired at the 12:01 showing)...