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  1. CirdanLinweilin

    Did 🧝Galadriel yearn for the Undying Lands for her daughter's sake?

    We all know Galadriel is the grandmother of Arwen, through her daughter marrying Elrond the half-elven, and sadly we know what happened to her poor daughter, and that she sailed to the west. I can only imagine the Long torment her mother's heart suffered being separated so long from her...
  2. B

    How does the 🧝Elves leaving the Grey Havens to the Undying Lands work?

    I recall from the Silmarallion that they were more or less kicked out, or the Noldor were, for their Kinslaying and all of that. On the other hand, I recall that by the Third Age, Elves were going through the Shire, heading West to the Grey Havens to depart Middle Earth, never to return...
  3. Elbereth Vala Varda

    Drawing My Map of Beleriand and the Lands of the North

    Here are some photos of my newest map addition. I made it all by tracing in some places and freehand sketching most. Enjoy! If you want any closer up photos-- just ask!
  4. Phantom718

    How long did it take to reach the Undying Lands from the Gray Havens?

    When Frodo sailed West at the end of the book, it is written that the ship reached Tol Eressea "...at last on a night of rain...", which seems to sound like it took some time to get there. Even though it was removed from the circles of the world, if it was comparatively as distant from M-E as...
  5. N

    Men in the undying lands

    Why were men banned from entering the undying Lands?
  6. J

    Did 🧙Gandalf receive a telepathic message from Manwe?

    How did Gandalf the white know when he could return to the undying lands? did he get a telepathic message from Manwe? Also how did Galadriel know that she had got a pardon from the Valar before she returned to the undying lands?
  7. J

    The Undying Lands Inspired

    Hi Was Tolkien Inspired By Tir Na Nog Of Celtic Mythology or Asgard Or Norse Mythology Or Olympus Of Greek Mythology Or The Heaven Of Christianity to Create The Undying Lands For His Own Mythology Or All Of Those Sources? Also Are His Books Linked More To Norse mythology Or The Bible?
  8. J

    Frodo In The Undying Lands

    When Frodo Arrived In The Undying Lands If He Found Out About The Halls Of Mandos And Decided To Spend The Rest Of His Days Sitting Peacefully In Mandos Halls Would Manwe And Mandos Have Allowed Him? If yes Why? If Not Why?
  9. J

    frodo in the undying lands

    when frodo arrived in the undying lands any ideas on the places he would have visited there? three examples are below The Halls Of Mandos The Mansions of Manwe And Varda the city of tirion any idea which of these he may have visited upon arriving in the undying lands? or did he go straight to...
  10. J

    frodo sailing to the undying lands

    How is it that frodo was able to sail to the undying lands? did he get special permission from the valar directly or did the elves have the authority to allow him to do it on behalf of the valar?
  11. norrinradd

    Was Rhûn based primarily on the lands of Asia?

    I think there are related references in The Hobbit, but I do not know certainly. I will write what I find below. This part is a quote from the source tolkiengetaway. In the earliest drafts of The Hobbit, Bilbo offered to walk from the Shire "to [cancelled: Hindu Kush] the Great Desert of Gobi...
  12. CirdanLinweilin

    The Fellowship: In 🧝Elven Lands Musical Album; Inspired by Tolkien

    Well met! Mae govannen, mellyn! I found an awesome musical band that is inspired by Tolkien and his wonderful, lush, rich languages. It's called "The Fellowship" and their album(s) In Elven Lands has lovely music that echoes Rivendell and Beleriand of Middle-earth history and yore. It's on...
  13. Odin

    The Undying Lands: 👁️Sauron's next target?

    Lets assume for a moment that Sauron reclaims the One somehow. What would he do next? Obviously he would conquer all of Middle-Earth, but would he ever make it to Aman? Could the Dark Lord eventually threaten the Valar and conquer all of Valinor?
  14. R

    Aman - Undying Lands

    Hi, I have questions about Aman - The Undying Lands. I have read from different places that even in Aman mortal remains mortal, but he will die of free will. I don't understand it, probably it's caused by my bad english. Does it mean that a mortal man will live there in Aman as long as he will...
  15. Lhunithiliel

    Gimli in the lands of the Easterlings

    Believe me, I wondered a lot of time where to open this small thread and I finally decided that the film-section is the most appropriate. After all it is all about a brief report I posted for the OneRing Net with some fresh news about John Rhys-Davies. How could I NOT provide the same...
  16. Ithrynluin

    Undying lands...or not?

    Upon re-reading Aldarion and Erendis I stumbled upon this interesting bit: The Eldar of Tol Eressëa gave these two birds as a gift for her marriage with Aldarion. It is visible from this passage that the birds live long, yet are mortal. Aren't the Undying lands supposed to be free of stain...
  17. Link

    How did Sam and Gimli get to the Undying Lands??

    It says that the Undying Lands are not reachable by a mortal. Frodo and Bilbo made it and were allowed to stay b/c they had been ring bearers and had the consent of the elves and Gandalf. How did Samwise make it though? Didn't he go by himself when Rosie died? How did he get there? He's a...
  18. W

    Are Valinor, The Grey Havens, and The Undying Lands the same?

    I always wondered if there were the same thing or the same location, and were the once part of the land of aman? please fill me in. i not sure what is what? and what were the locations? thinaks, are these the sames realms that the valar stay?
  19. W

    Lands of Beleriand- I'm confused, please help?

    i recently looked at a map of bereliand and noticed some lands called fingon, turgon, fingolfin, and finrod and so on, so are these names of elvish kingdoms and if so where do men have thier kingdoms, i assuming that gondor and such have not been established but numenore was around at the time...
  20. W

    The Undying lands of Valinor really was the United States?

    i think the jrr tolkein meant for the undying lands of valinor to be teh undying lands, see if you look at it this way, tolkiens time everyone who was someone was leaving Europe(Middle Earth) and leaving thier shores for the undying lands Valinor(America), you see the comparison, as with Harad...
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