melkor

As I understand it, Melkor/Morgoth corrupted life and made evil things out of spite and jealousy because he was not allowed to create beings of his own for his own glory. If he had been allowed to create a world of his own beyond Arda, in exchange for aid in crafting Arda perhaps, could he have...

I thought about creating this thread for a day or so... so I'm just going to start it with this picture. Then discussion may follow as it will. A picture (my avatar is from this) made by someone I don't know - I found it on https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Tulkas - it is Tulkas and Melkor - in...

Gandalf said that nobody started out as evil, not even Sauron. While Sauron may have been good before he became corrupted by Melkor, it seems that, even during the creation song, Melkor was, if not openly evil, at least openly trying to go his own way rather than follow Eru.

I know that he and Ungoliant did destroy the trees and run off with the Simarils, but, as far as I know, he never tried, even through minions, to attack it directly after that. Sauron, however, in the Second Age, did, by his attempt to have Numenor invade Valinor. Why did Melkor never bother...

Sauron vs Morgoth who did More to Counter the Free Peoples? This is not a question of who was more powerful at creation, but who did more evil to the free peoples. I will argue that Sauron was the most powerful force for darkness in all of Middle-earth. And that his power was greater than...

I want to hear the community's perspective on the dynamics of the relationship between Melkor & Mairon (Sauron). It has been stated that the Orcs did not love their servitude to Morgoth, rather they feared and hated him. Can the same be said for even the most powerful among the servants of...

Had Sauron won the war of the Ring (either during the Second Age or the Third Age), would Sauron have freed his old master or not, fearing that Melkor would then supplant him?

as we know there are many wars of Beleriand as melkor (or Morgoth) destroys the lands, but why for the longest time the Valar did nothing to stop Morgoth from destroying Beleriand and doing his evil? (until the war of wraith). (Edit: opps sorry i posted wrong section)

In this Hypothetical Scenario. Would he be able to last longer than Melkor ? How well would Manwe fare against Melkor and the rest of the 13 Valar ? Would the outcome of his rebellion be any different than that of Melkor's own rebellion ? Your Thoughts ?

Hello everyone, I'm new here. There're some questions about Melkor I want to know. Tolkien stated that the Valar are immortal. Melkor was defeated many times by the combined force of 14 Valar and countless Maiar, yet, every time he was defeated, he always came back. But in the case of Dagor...

Melkor & Ancalagon The Black & Gothmog VS Tulkas Battle takes place in Mordor. Basic knowledge for both sides. Fight till death. Who wins and why. I just want to see who people believe can win this battle.. :rolleyes: @Erestor Arcamen What are your thoughts on this battle..?

I'm just wondering, if the Balrogs hadn't rescued Melkor, what would have been his fate. Could Ungoliant have consumed his spirit? Or would she have just consumed his body and, being bound to it, would just float in limbo.

Or did Eru create him as evil purposefully? I'm thinking of a line in Ainulindale where Eru tells him to the tune of 'anything you sing ultimately comes from me'. does that mean that Eru made Melkor evil on purpose because he is part of the design of Arda?

I've always wondered what other people call the the dark lord when dicussing him. i myself always call him Melkor. Morgoth is his evil, "The Dark Enamy Of The World", whereas Melkor is the being that walks the earth. And if i were in the world that tolkin created, weather it be elf or man, i...

Hello Pearce has said that: “The allegory becomes even less mistakable when Tolkien describes the war between Melkor and Manwë, who is clearly cast in the role of the archangel Michael” (2002: 90). Is he referring to a story in The Silmarillion, please? Thanks. _postman

Rather than produce ream upon ream of quotes, I throw this question to you, the venerable members: Did Ossë ever really repent of his apparent temporary allegiance to Melkor, or beneath it all did he remain somewhat subserviant, directly or indirectly challenging the work of Ulmo. I would...

The Children of Hurin. Unfinished Tales At what cost to Melkor was the slaying of Glaurung? Bearing in mind his spirit is partially imparted into the Dragon to allow him existence, does Morgoth feel in himself a weakening at the loss of Glaurung and therefore, ultimately a loss in himself?

Now in that first quote we see that the lamps were set higher than any mountain in Arda, so as to be able to illuminate as much of the land. The second quote tells us that the light of the northern lamp sort of annulled Melkor's shadow. Are we to think that Melkor was so tall that he cast...

Melkor Marred or Remade From Morgoth’s Ring: Myths Transformed: I was always under the impression that Melkor was the evil guy, that wanted to conquer all of Arda for himself, and that he deviated from his original purpose that was for him to be the Master architect of Arda. Certainly, in...

okay, i'm just curious if anyone can compare Melkor to Grendel (from "Beowulf") and if not how are they different from each other?