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  1. Lhunithiliel

    A Vala's envy ?

    What could a Valar envy the Ch.Ill. for? There must have been obviously some very important reason, perhaps based on some very significant difference between the Ainu (no matter how mighty and glorious they were made by Eru) and the Ch.Ill. What was that "special" difference between the...
  2. Ithrynluin

    The dwellings of the Valar

    Which of these dwellings has left the biggest impression on you - of beauty,majesty...etc. You can of course use your own imagination to go beyond these short descriptions.:) I cannot decide between Lorien and the dwelling of Nienna - these 2 dwellings I find the most fascinating. 1.Manwë and...
  3. Gothmog

    Was Melkor a Vala?

    From the Silmarillion: Chapter 9: the flight of the Noldor It has been said that Melkor was considered a Valar at the time of the rebellion of the Noldor in Aman. It is my view that he ceased to be a Valar at a far earlier time in the history of Arda. Indeed from the time he said the words...
  4. Maeglin

    Do the vala care anymore?

    ok we know that the 4th age is the age of men, but the Vala seemed to only really care about the elves, with the exception of Melian, who cared about her plants. But do they care about the men as much as they do the elves? And we don't really know of anymore huge problems that arose during the...
  5. Maeglin

    Why didn't the valar take care of 👁️Sauron?

    In that last battle of the first age when the Vala came and wiped out Morgoth and his allies and threw Morgoth into the abyss, why didn't they take care of Sauron then too? They knew that Sauron was only Morgoth's second in command, and he shouldn't have been much of a problem seeing as he once...
  6. Grond

    🧝Feanor's Rebellion - Are the Valar really to blame?

    Many blame the Flight of the Noldor on the Valar failing to act when Melkor destroyed the trees and stole the Silmarils. I had forgotten this passage and all of the evil emotions that Melkor had begun to bring to fruition long before he fled Valinor after his first unchaining. My...
  7. gate7ole

    Can the Valar be 💀killed?

    I thought that the Valar and Maiar are immortal. But there are some passages when an Ainu is threatened to be killed. (e.g Melkor by Ungoliant). Can it be that by being confined into Ea, they lose also their immortality?
  8. S

    Who's the Greatest Vala?

    Manwe Mandos Melkor (he's not exactly a Vala but...) Ulmo Orome Okay.... There's been a lot of discusion about who's the greatest Vala. So here's a poll. P.S. Who's the Greatest Valie poll coming up:)
  9. D

    The ⚔️Battle of the Valar!

    Heres Your Chance, to sound off on which of the Valar is the greatest!! Go Ahead and enjoy!
  10. Y

    Your favourite Vala ?

    Okay, maybe this thread was already posted, but still, what was your favourite Vala ? Melkor not included. I'd definitely say Aule the Smith, because he actually did many things that we can see for ourselves, and which are known to be his make. I also think that the Dwarves are easily the...
  11. F

    You 'defenders' of the Valar, answer me this

    1. The ban of the Valar placed on men. It is said that Men were not allowed to enter the Blessed realm bc they were mortal. Also, it is said that Death for men is a gift in that, when weary of the world, thay may leave it. Why then were Bilbo and Frodo allowed to go West for were they not...
  12. Gil-Galad

    Aren't Valar the bad guys?!

    A friend of mine,who is not in this forum ,told me: "Valar allow Earendil to reach Valinor,because he carries one of the silmarils.If he hadn't brought it with him,he would have been admitted.Valar don't help elves and people ,till Earendil comes with the silmaril.Why don't they accept any...
  13. U

    Your Favorite Vala

    Your Favorite Valar Well, which one is your favorite? I voted for Aulë.
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