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I constructed some names, I'm hoping to find some help with the fine tuning. From learning foreign language, I have a small understanding of the terms of grammar structure and such... but I'm by no means a linguist and whenever I try to read articles on how the Elvish languages are put together...
In the Appendix in ROTK, it mentions how after the death of Aragorn, Legolas builds a ship to finally travel West to Valinor and leave ME. It also mentions that it is said that his long-time friend Gimli accompanied him.
It was my understanding that the only mortals who were ever allowed...
Hello all! It has been too long!
I was once a very active member here and have just recently renewed my interest into the world of Tolkien. It has been a couple of years since I read the books, and naturally I have forgotten some of what I once knew; I cannot seem to remember nor find in the...
Something that's been bothering me lately..why exactly was Tuor permitted to remain there?
Of course, he was given the life of the Elves which I assume was to save Idril from heartbreak, but it does seem strange considering that the Valar almost turned Earendil away.
Any thoughts?
Been reading, slowly, the earlier parts of the Silmarillion, and I have a couple of thoughts on this part. Any comments or insights... even nitpicking... are always welcomed.
First of all, I'm not sure I understand why they couldn't just make two more trees. Aside from the ad hominem...
When the Elves and the Ring-bearers departed to the West, did they go to Tol Eressëa, or to Valinor? If they went to Valinor, what about the prohibition of the Noldor from going back?
"Nonetheless, they shall have need of the wood."
I am no professor in English, but I believe that quote was made to be rather satirical. Yet it describes the horrible relationship between Aule and Yavanna. In fact, I believe their union and actions to be highly un-Valarish. Here is a brief...
It is the belief of two of my friends that Frodo and Biblo and all were going to Valinor to die. Regardless of my attempts to disuade them from this assumption, they refused to listen to me. I was wondering if there is any actual verity in that belief, and thus consult those here who may know...
I apologize if these qustions have been answered, but I can't seem to find any of the threads that I saw earlier that answered them.
1). Why exactly was it necessary for the Ringbearers to depart to Valinor?
2.) Would the Hobbits (and Gimli) have eventually died in Valinor?
3.) After...
This is a topic which I proposed as a debate topic but was decided to be too obscure:
Would the Eldar of Aman be untainted or is this taint something inherent in the Children of Iluvatar?
I would like to apologize in advance for not having any additional readings, I only own 3 HOME books and they are the "History of Lord of the Rings ones," so they don't concern the Sil. Also, I just read the chapter I'm about to post on about 3 minutes ago.:o I'm not sure exactly how I am...
Further Readings
The Book of Lost Tales I: "The Theft of Melko"
The Shaping of Middle-earth: "The Earliest 'Silmarillion'" - Ch. 4
The Shaping of Middle-earth: "The Quenta" - Ch. 4
Shaping of Middle-earth: "The Earliest Annals of Valinor" - MMCMDI (p288) ;)
Shaping of Middle-earth: "The...
ive just started the Book of lost Tales 1, and in the first chapter, where Eriol arrives in Tol Eressea and comes to the cottage of lost play, Vaire tells him about the Path of Dreams ("Olore Malle")
that leads to a village of Men...
how can this be??
I always wondered if there were the same thing or the same location, and were the once part of the land of aman? please fill me in. i not sure what is what? and what were the locations? thinaks, are these the sames realms that the valar stay?
In TTT movie Elrond says something to Arwen about go to Valinor. Well I read somewhere that at the end of the 2nd age Valinor was removed from the circles of the world. So is the movie in error? Or is what I just said not true? and if it is true how did it happen?
i think the jrr tolkein meant for the undying lands of valinor to be teh undying lands, see if you look at it this way, tolkiens time everyone who was someone was leaving Europe(Middle Earth) and leaving thier shores for the undying lands Valinor(America), you see the comparison, as with Harad...
The Noldor were permitted to take a white ship and return to Valinor. Is this also true for other elves, like the Silvan or Sindar?
E.g. Can Thranduil go to the west?
We know Legolas was accepted but he was a special person, aiding the Ringbairer in his perilous task. It may be an exception...