Amazon is mutating Tolkien's vision of Middle Earth

[Elisha]

Amazon wants to include explicit content in their show of Middle Earth. However, that is not in line with Tolkien's view or the view of countless fans! Tolkien described his work ad "purged of the gross" we must keep it this way! Please sign my petition to make our voices heard http://chng.it/8tM8K2Cm

 

[Erestor Arcamen]

Petitions like this never work, Amazon is a huge company and isn't going to listen to or be included by some random fans online.

 

[Elisha]

Not if we get enough people! One petition which has so far gained over 50,000 signatures has been featured on numerous news outlets! And it is possible that they did influence because it seemed in the latest spy reports that explicit content had been scaled down quite a bit. However, not enough and if we really show them that it won't be successful then they'll have no choice. And besides it never hurts to try!

 

[Phuc Do]

Take a chill pill bro.

 

[Hisoka Morrow]

Petitions like this never work, Amazon is a huge company and isn't going to listen to or be included by some random fans online.

But we're their markets.

 

[Ealdwyn]

And there are many millions of Amazon customers who have never read any Tolkien and won't care whether it has explicit content

 

[Olorgando]

There are millions of fans of Peter Jackson's films who probably still have not read either of the books.
Add to those the millions of fans of the Game of Thrones TV series, and you have the market Amazon is aiming for.

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

Which makes me wonder: could we get a petition up for some retroactive "purging of the gross"? 😀

 

[Radaghast]

Not sure it will do any good but I've signed it because why not? At any rate, I intend to cancel my Prime subscription, not just because of the the LotR series but because Amazon is pure evil. I'll guess I'll just have to try find the rest of Endeavour on DVD at the library.

 

[Rivendell_librarian]

At least PJ didn't include any sexually explicit content!

 

[Alcuin]

Hollywood and Big Tech are intent upon destroying Western civilization and remodeling it in their own perverted notion of what’s proper. These “progressives” (i.e., Marxists) don’t care if it matches the story, if it’s in any way true to the ideas and concepts behind what they are destroying, or even if they make money. In regards to making money or not, it isn’t their wealth at stake: they’ll get paid whether they make a profit or not.

This pattern is true in the Peter Jackson Tolkien movies, in the last three Star Wars movies, the recent Star Trek movies and television shows, the recent Marvel movies, the Dr Who failure, and the general level of trash Hollywood and its daughter industries (Disney+, hulu, etc.) have delivered, and the material regularly excised from YouTube or Facebook or Twitter. Amazon is just one more example of programmed, intentional failure in an endeavor to overturn the civilization that allowed them to spawn.

And they don’t give a d@#! whether or not anyone actually likes the trash they pour our any more than Saruman cared whether the folks in Hobbiton liked the filth that poured out of the new mill into The Water and from there into the Brandywine: all the better if they hated it! So also with these cretins, these artistes.

Yeah, I’m really, really hacked off at Hollywood and Big Tech.

 

[Ealdwyn]

Hollywood and Big Tech are intent upon destroying Western civilization and remodeling it in their own perverted notion of what’s proper. These “progressives” (i.e., Marxists) don’t care if it matches the story, if it’s in any way true to the ideas and concepts behind what they are destroying, or even if they make money. In regards to making money or not, it isn’t their wealth at stake: they’ll get paid whether they make a profit or not.

This pattern is true in the Peter Jackson Tolkien movies, in the last three Star Wars movies, the recent Star Trek movies and television shows, the recent Marvel movies, the Dr Who failure, and the general level of trash Hollywood and its daughter industries (Disney+, hulu, etc.) have delivered, and the material regularly excised from YouTube or Facebook or Twitter. Amazon is just one more example of programmed, intentional failure in an endeavor to overturn the civilization that allowed them to spawn.

And they don’t give a d@#! whether or not anyone actually likes the trash they pour our any more than Saruman cared whether the folks in Hobbiton liked the filth that poured out of the new mill into The Water and from there into the Brandywine: all the better if they hated it! So also with these cretins, these artistes.

Yeah, I’m really, really hacked off at Hollywood and Big Tech.

There's nothing Marxist about it.
Quite the opposite, it's the supreme capitalist dream: they'll do whatever it takes to make money at the expensive of everyone and everthing else. It's capitalism that destroys and subverts for the sake of making a buck any way they can. And this includes taking somebody elses creation and misrepresenting it to fit their agenda.... the agenda of making money.

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

Before this goes any further, may I suggest a reread of the Rules thread?

https://thetolkien.forum/threads/the-rules-thread.29109/

 

[1stvermont]

Amazon wants to include explicit content in their show of Middle Earth. However, that is not in line with Tolkien's view or the view of countless fans! Tolkien described his work ad "purged of the gross" we must keep it this way! Please sign my petition to make our voices heard http://chng.it/8tM8K2Cm

sighned.

 

[Olorgando]

Yeah, I’m really, really hacked off at Hollywood and Big Tech.

I can certainly agree with you about these two sectors of the economy in principle, though not in all details (which should not surprise you).
But you fail to mention a far more sinister system that lurks at the back of every economic endeavor of the present day:
The "International Finance Industry".

At some time in the first century AD the saying "pecunia non olet" was coined - appropriate term - in the Roman Empire. I had a defective memory about it being linked directly to ancient Rome's big sewer, the "Cloaca Maxima" - which as so many things thought Roman, was actually in earliest origin Etruscan. There is a weaker link, as the saying was applied to a tax levied on a waste product usually destined for a sewer ...

When the ancestors of the "International Finance Industry" latched onto that saying is probably lost in the fogs of history. That it is their unofficial credo is utterly obvious. Those middle-ages alchemists look like toddlers in a sandbox in their misguided (and unsuccessful) attempts to turn "less-than-noble" substances into gold. Their undeclared successors have actually succeeded (meditate on the term "subprime ..." - at least Michael Milken called his stuff "Junk Bonds" 👿 )

 

[Hisoka Morrow]

Hollywood and Big Tech are intent upon destroying Western civilization and remodeling it in their own perverted notion of what’s proper. These “progressives” (i.e., Marxists) don’t care if it matches the story, if it’s in any way true to the ideas and concepts behind what they are destroying, or even if they make money. In regards to making money or not, it isn’t their wealth at stake: they’ll get paid whether they make a profit or not.

This pattern is true in the Peter Jackson Tolkien movies, in the last three Star Wars movies, the recent Star Trek movies and television shows, the recent Marvel movies, the Dr Who failure, and the general level of trash Hollywood and its daughter industries (Disney+, hulu, etc.) have delivered, and the material regularly excised from YouTube or Facebook or Twitter. Amazon is just one more example of programmed, intentional failure in an endeavor to overturn the civilization that allowed them to spawn.

And they don’t give a d@#! whether or not anyone actually likes the trash they pour our any more than Saruman cared whether the folks in Hobbiton liked the filth that poured out of the new mill into The Water and from there into the Brandywine: all the better if they hated it! So also with these cretins, these artistes.

Yeah, I’m really, really hacked off at Hollywood and Big Tech.

I can't agree with you anymore+10000, very righteously harsh words deserved by them.

 

[ArnorianRanger]

I imagine Frodo and Sam would have a proper reaction:

Sam: "I wonder if they'll ever put any of the old stories into songs or tales properly."
Frodo: "What?"
Sam: "I wonder if people will ever say, 'Let's hear about the Elves and the Silmarils.' And they'll say 'Yes, that's one of my favorite stories. Or it used to be, until Amazon ruined it in five seasons and the fans couldn't come up with anything better. Seriously, decades of work and they can just destroy the public's perception of one of the greatest modern myths of all time in a few seasons!? And that's saying a lot.'"
Frodo: "You've left out one of the chief characters to start the whole thing - Peter the Jackson."
Sam: "Now Mr. Frodo, you shouldn't make fun; I was being serious.
Frodo: "So was I."

Thanks,

ArnorianRanger

 

[Elisha]

Hollywood and Big Tech are intent upon destroying Western civilization and remodeling it in their own perverted notion of what’s proper. These “progressives” (i.e., Marxists) don’t care if it matches the story, if it’s in any way true to the ideas and concepts behind what they are destroying, or even if they make money. In regards to making money or not, it isn’t their wealth at stake: they’ll get paid whether they make a profit or not.

This pattern is true in the Peter Jackson Tolkien movies, in the last three Star Wars movies, the recent Star Trek movies and television shows, the recent Marvel movies, the Dr Who failure, and the general level of trash Hollywood and its daughter industries (Disney+, hulu, etc.) have delivered, and the material regularly excised from YouTube or Facebook or Twitter. Amazon is just one more example of programmed, intentional failure in an endeavor to overturn the civilization that allowed them to spawn.

And they don’t give a d@#! whether or not anyone actually likes the trash they pour our any more than Saruman cared whether the folks in Hobbiton liked the filth that poured out of the new mill into The Water and from there into the Brandywine: all the better if they hated it! So also with these cretins, these artistes.

Yeah, I’m really, really hacked off at Hollywood and Big Tech.

Couldn't agree more!

Hey everyone just an update on my petition: It has now reached 14 signatures, but has slowed down a bit. I would really appreciate it if you could share this link with anyone you know who might sign it or on any other Tolkien Forums you know of. I know this has a low chance of success, but it doesn't take much time and effort to just share this link http://chng.it/8tM8K2Cm Thanks!

 

[Ealdwyn]

 

[Elthir]

Wait . . . a visual comment about Amazon and The Lord of the Rings using a still from Jackson's films?

I need a nap.