Christopher Paollini's Eragon. (merged)

[Majimaune]

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Yes there is so stuff about elves from over the sea

i forgot to put something ive gone on to read eldest and theres a woman called Ellessari

 

[Wonko The Sane]

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Yeah thanks Aule but I am only 14

e.blackstar I used capitals

You don't have to be 80 to know how to use the shift key. You're old enough to know how to capitalise words, and you should be old enough to know that if you want people to take you seriously you should attempt to make your posts look presentable.

 

[ingolmo]

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There was an Eragon thread somewhere..., but no one ever posted on it once Corvis and I were banned to talk about the back covers of our hobbit books on it.

Anyway, I do like the Inheritance trilogy, even though some things were just stolen from LotR (Ringwraiths=Ra'zac). For those of you who think it is improperly written, you have to remember that Paolini was 15 when he wrote Eragon and 17 when it was published. And I seriously will have a word with whoever thinks that it's no mean feat to have a book published at 17. Moreover, that was his first book, and he's bound to improve; he's 21 right now. Eldest was by far a much better book. More Tolkienical, if I could say that.

 

[e.Blackstar]

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you have to remember that Paolini was 15 when he wrote Eragon

Yes, it's commendable, but the problem is: he wrote it when he was 15 and I can tell. His writing style immediatly struck me as juvenile.

 

[HLGStrider]

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He'll improve though. He is already improving, and maybe someday we'll see a huge rewrite of the section.

Gosh, I would love to get a mediocre but well selling book published so I could quit my day job and then work totally on improving my writing rather than squeezing it in on lunch breaks and at odd hours. I'd write a well selling advertising jingle for that. . .

 

[Noldor_returned]

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As I said, I will list as many plagiarisms as possible, but it could take me a few months. I think most similarities are more than just coincidence.
I think Paolini was under a lot of Tolkien influence, sort of like a drug. He subconsciously did what he did. That's my explanationing.

 

[Majimaune]

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Yeah the Ra'zac are like the Nazgul and alot of names where stolen but geting a book writen by the age of 15 and published by his fathers publishing compony is pretty good. I mean I'm writing a book and I'm only upto Chapter 4. Poulini did have a lot of help from family and friends having the right connections can always help.

 

[e.Blackstar]

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Getting a book written by 15 is a big thing, certainly. (Though getting a good book written by 15 is apparently a good deal harder...)
But I wonder if he would have gotten published had his father not owned a company.

 

[ingolmo]

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It was a good book. It was a bestseller, after all.

And if it weren't for his family publishing company and the support, help, and inspiration he got from his family, I don't think that he would even started writing a novel, let alone publish one.

 

[HLGStrider]

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I need relatives in the publishing business . . . Elgee mopes.

I think it worked out very well for him, and I like the book simply because it gives me "Heck, if he can I can."

I feel that way whenever I come across something in a book I think I could have done better. I think, "Heck, if I can do better, then I must be as good as they are so I must be publishable someday!" It's very encouraging.

 

[Majimaune]

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Hehe now for my evil plot to reviel things.

Heres one of the many lotr phrases he's used in the book Eldest.

Nasuada faltered, disconcerned then forged ahead. "Would you be willing to keep an eye on Elva for me? I need-"
Of course! And I'll keep two eyeson her if I can spare them..."

And then theres.

who is he asked saphira.
Arya said "He is Gilderien the Wise, Prince of House Miolandra, Wielder of the White Flame of Vandil, and Guardian of Ellesmera...

There my evil plot has begun.

P.S. Anyone else is free to help me.

P.P.S. They are direct quotes.

P.P.P.S. I wont be here for awhile I'm going away.

 

[Wonko The Sane]

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Can somebody please explain to me what Eragon is?

 

[HLGStrider]

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It's a book. . .well, Eragon is the first book in the series. Eldest is the second. I think the series is called Inheritance.

They were written by a very young author, sold rather well, and copy a lot from other fantasy series.

 

[Wonko The Sane]

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What's the premise of the story? Plot? Main character?

Just curious.

I wrote a book when I was 12-13. I'm pretty sure it was rubbish, but at the time I thought it was great. I wouldn't know though, it was lost when my first computer crashed beyond belief. When I was a kid I was rubbish at dialogue and a bit given over to flowery prose.

And from the quotes given it sounds like this kid is no different.

My book was a Star Wars book though, so I wasn't really stealing. I was adding to the series.

 

[e.Blackstar]

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(Disclaimer: This is all based on my memory, and I've only read the book once, several years ago.)

It's about a young kid named Eragon who, while he's out hunting, finds a large shiny rock and takes it home. It turns out to be a dragon egg, and hatches into a a baby named Saphira. Eragon is away from home when something TRAGIC happens, and he takes the dragon and runs off into a world of peril.

 

[HLGStrider]

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The lead character Eragon is a farm boy who one day finds a strange stone that hatches into a dragon. The evil king sends messengers after the dragon because he had killed off all dragon riders but himself and wants to capture/kill Eragon and his dragon, Saphira. They basically burn down the kid's farm while he is away one day and he, the dragon, and an elderly, mysterious neighbor run for it. Rescue an elven princess. Meet a mysterious wanderer. Join rebels.

It's decent, but a lot of it I've seen elsewhere.

I don't care for Eragon himself. I'm not sure if I could define his character. I like some of the side characters. I really liked Murtagh until he all too predictably. . . are we giving spoilers? If so I predicted every bit of the last scene between Murtagh and Eragon in eldest. It was the only way it made sense. Dang. I like Murtagh a ton more than Eragon. He reminded me of a grumpier, angrier version of my Marine. . . I always associate him with the villains. . .it's that devil dog thing, I guess. . .

E and I replied at the same time and she was quicker than me. . .dang.

 

[e.Blackstar]

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The lead character Eragon is a farm boy who one day finds a strange stone that hatches into a dragon. The evil king sends messengers after the dragon because he had killed off all dragon riders but himself and wants to capture/kill Eragon and his dragon, Saphira. They basically burn down the kid's farm while he is away one day and he, the dragon, and an elderly, mysterious resident of the village run for it. Rescue an elven princess. Meet a mysterious wanderer. Join rebels.

What she said.

 

[Wonko The Sane]

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So, what's the problem with this book?

The fact you've seen it all before? Plenty of good books are written from tried and tested perspectives and storylines.

The fact that the kid's writing is ****? Pretty unforgiveable. Just cos a kid writes a book doesn't mean his dad should publish it. Not all the trash that gets written deserves to be published.

Lack of good characters? Again, something I'd not forgive easily.

That it was predictable? Plenty of books are predictable, but they're not necessarily ****.

Just curious. Based on your reviews I don't really want to read the thing...I just want to know if it has any redeeming qualities...and how a 15 year old can publish a rubbish book!!?!

 

[HLGStrider]

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It has an interesting plot and some very intriguing parts. It simply could use re-written in places. I don't have a problem with the book, per say, but I do like to mock it where it very obvious ripped off rather than made up.

Predictability I can stand. It's kind of fun to be right when you make predictions. I love figuring out mysterious before the detective in the book. . .

I think the way it worked was that he was published prematurely. In about five years he could have reworked the book into something truly fantastic. He has the talent. He just is rough around the edges. However, the idea sold before maturity, and it took off. That's why I think someday he may rewrite the series or write something better.

 

[e.Blackstar]

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So, what's the problem with this book?

The fact you've seen it all before? Plenty of good books are written from tried and tested perspectives and storylines.

The fact that the kid's writing is ****? Pretty unforgiveable. Just cos a kid writes a book doesn't mean his dad should publish it. Not all the trash that gets written deserves to be published.

Lack of good characters? Again, something I'd not forgive easily.

That it was predictable? Plenty of books are predictable, but they're not necessarily ****.

Just curious. Based on your reviews I don't really want to read the thing...I just want to know if it has any redeeming qualities...and how a 15 year old can publish a rubbish book!!?!

I for one don't think that it's TERRIBLE, just not good enough to merit reading Eldest. I've nothing actually AGAINST it though.