Dangerous Trees

[samjor]

When Frodo and company enter the old forest in the fellowship there is talk of dangerous trees that attacked the hedge surrounding buckland are these trees the ones they call ents???

 

[Eliot]

No, the Ents are much farther southeast in Fangorn Forest (look at a map). I forgot what the dangerous trees in the Old Forest are called. The Ents aren't evil or anything.

 

[samjor]

Could these trees have been the entwives?

It was said that they moved in the direction of the shire.

 

[Eliot]

I'm not exactly sure. If they were the Entwives, it would be kinda weird for them to be mean, evil, etc. Whatever, who knows?

 

[YayGollum]

I knows. Yes, those trees were what was left of the Entwives. That Old Man Willow guy was the only Ent that came with them. He controls the superly sleepy and mostly tree-like Entwives by staying awake with tossing his sleepiness at whatever little things walk by. Like nasssty hobbitses.

 

[samjor]

There is no mention of the trees being evil, it just says that the trees attacked the hedge.

Maybe they attacked in self defense.

There is good reason to believe they are the lost entwives.

 

[Melko Belcha]

It's most likely a Huorn. And Treebeard says there are even dark patches in Fangorn.

During the First and Second Age one great forest ran from Fangorn to the Old Forest.

 

[samjor]

Whats a Huorn?

 

[Melko Belcha]

Have you read The Two Towers?

 

[olorin the maia]

In UT index is the following:

Huorns - The 'trees' that came to the Battle of the Hornburg and entrapped the Orcs.

but what they actually are, spirit trees, spirits that look like trees, wayward Ents, shadowy woods, is open to debate. The real Ents keep track of and control them (more or less), according to Merry and Pippin.

Perhaps there is other lore available on this question?

 

[samjor]

Yes I have read the two towers but only once so I could not recall the hueons.

Thank you olorin for your information.

 

[Melko Belcha]

If I sounded rude I did not mean to. I just didn't want to spoil anything.

 

[samjor]

Not to worry friend.

You see am sort of new to the world of Tolkien, ive only read the hobbit and the lord of the rings once, but I have become hooked and am very interested in learning more about the history of middle earth.

 

[Melko Belcha]

That's cool. That's why I didn't want to spoil something you hadn't read yet.

 

[samjor]

I have read lord of the rings so u can't spoil it for me.

But that was quite thoughtful of you!

 

[Melko Belcha]

olorin the maia covered the little bit we know of them. But here's a quote.

The Complete Guide to Middle-earth

Huorns - Creatures of Fangorn, probably Ents (or trees) that had become wild and dangerous in the Great Darkness. Huorns moved little, but when they desired they could travel quickly and wrap themselves in shadow. Huorns could still speak, and were controlled by the true Ents. Although wild, they were not really evil, and they hated Orcs.

 

[samjor]

So these Huorns where left behind in the old forest?

How did the old forest and fangorn forest become separated?

 

[Melko Belcha]

I don't have my books handy so this is off memory.

When the Numenoreans (Aragorn's and Faramir's ancestors) first returned to Middle-earth (600 Second Age) they built harbors and began building ships in numerous amounts.

And then Sauron overran Eriador trying to capture the Three Elven Rings and war ravaged the land land for many years. 1693 - 1701 S.A.

The full tell is never told but info can be found in Unfinished Tales.

 

[samjor]

So most of the forest was cut down to Make harbours and ships?

 

[Melko Belcha]

Like I said this is off memory, and I haven't read that part in along time.

But ships mainly. The Numenoreans didn't want to use up all the trees on Numenor so they began building them in Middle-earth. They were the greatest sailors to every live. And they were using the wood from Middle-earth for around 2,700 years.