Did the extended LOTR movie reveal Faramir and Boromir's closeness?

[-LaDy ArAgOrN-]

on the extended version, it showed how close Faramir and Boromir really were. i havent read all of the two towers or return of the king yet, and i didnt know they really were so close. i think that was dumb of peter jackson to cut out that whole scene, it really helped me understand Faramir's character.

 

[LordOfMoria]

I dont recall a scene in the book explainging there closeness in detail. Though i havent read TTT in a long time! I think PJ just threw that in there to show the difference between Faramir and Boromir to Denethor, but yet, faramir and boromis both believed in each other and Boromir Knew Faramir does his best but Denethor does not care. He just wants Victory in vaine. It was really just a set up for ROTK and how Denethor treated Faramir and when in TTT at Osgiliath when he said, "Take them t my father, Tell him Faramir sends a mighty gift, one that will change the fortune in this war." as Denethor said that he suspected the ring was found and it was a "Mighty Gift" and he wanted Boromir to bring it to him and yet, Faramir wanted to show his Quality to his father. Yeah went a little detailed but yeah, that was its main purpose.

 

[joxy]

Originally posted by -LaDy ArAgOrN-
....how close Faramir and Boromir really were.
....i havent read all.... yet, and i didnt know they really were so close.
....it really helped me understand Faramir's character.

They were brothers, and as close to each other as any two brothers might be. There's nothing unusual about that.
It may have helped you to understand what PJ THOUGHT Faramir's character was, or what he wanted it to be, but, when you do read the rest of TLOTR, you'll find that he got it VERY wrong!

 

[Starflower]

well in the books their relationship is described as being pretty close

in the books Faramir idolizes Boromir, thinks his big brother can do no wrong, unfortunately Denethor thinks so too and Faramir is left a bit aside

 

[Inderjit S]

Boromir was describe as being a bit of a bully in the context of his and Faramir's relationship. He was the dominant one and Faramir kept his mouth shut most of the time.

 

[Starflower]

Appendix A:
"Yet between the brothers there was great love, and had been since childhood, when Boromir was the helper and protector of Faramir. No jealousy or rivalry had arisen between them since, for their father's favour or for the praise of men. It did not seem possible to Faramir that any one in Gondor could rival boromir, heir of Denethor, Captain of the White Tower; and of like mind was Boromir."

This doesn't strike to me as describing Boromir as a bully, proud yes, maybe a little conceited - sure - but he is described as being a helper and protector to his little brother, not bullying him around.

 

[Inderjit S]

I think you misunderstand Faramir. He was daunted by his father: not only in the ordinary way of a family with a stern proud father of great force of character, but as a Númenórean before the chief of the one surviving Númenórean state. He was motherless and sisterless (Éowyn was also motherless), and had a 'bossy' brother. He had been accustomed to giving way and not giving his own opinions air,

Letter #244; Letters of Tolkien

If holding your tongue, and being daunted by your "bossy" brother (and father) is not bullying (to an extent) to you then it is to me. One can love and look after somebody, and be revered by that person, but sometimes you can over-step the boundaries and coax somebody else into doing as you would.

 

[Starflower]

I disagree to some degree, you can be 'bossy' by nature, and not be a bully. Bullying to me is making someone else's life miserable with deliberate actions, being bossy is a character trait, not very pleasant one i agree, but one that you can live with. Boromir was definitely bossy, he was the elder son, used to getting his own way, he had high airs about himself, but he did love his younger brother, whom he perceived to be weaker than himself. Faramir then again grew up not making a fuss of himself, obviously there were issues between Denethor and Faramir, but also it is stated that Faramir looked up to his brother, he did not resent Boromir's status as the heir to Denethor.

 

[Ermundo]

I disagree to some degree, you can be 'bossy' by nature, and not be a bully. Bullying to me is making someone else's life miserable with deliberate actions, being bossy is a character trait, not very pleasant one i agree, but one that you can live with. Boromir was definitely bossy, he was the elder son, used to getting his own way, he had high airs about himself, but he did love his younger brother, whom he perceived to be weaker than himself. Faramir then again grew up not making a fuss of himself, obviously there were issues between Denethor and Faramir, but also it is stated that Faramir looked up to his brother, he did not resent Boromir's status as the heir to Denethor.

You hit the spot, right where it counts. There is a differency between being a bossy person, and being a total bully, and Starflower took the words right out of my mouth. Being bossy is to give people orders, but being a bully is to deliberately give orders to make the person miserable. There's a difference.