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🧙Gandalf... rude?

Gandalf can be rude, remember the time, when Theoden, told him to go and take any horse he wanted. Well what do you know, he had to take Shadowfax. And when he returned Shadowfax, it was all wrestless, and would let no man control it.

Typical lol
 
gandalf the wizard accually Olorin of the maia was the steward of middle earth he was an angelic being th0ough wreathed in flesh he held true to his stewardship. if you call marking doors (so that smuag and suaron would not ally and enslave middle earth)rudeness than i might point to the word nessesary. dont insult gandalf stormcrow.
 
Hello, all.

If memory serves, when Gandalf scratched Bilbo's door the first time, it was to put the "Burgler for Hire" mark on it. When he struck it again, as he arrived to the meeting, it was to knock the mark out. Since it served a purpose, could it really be considered rude?

As far as Shadowfax is concerned; Theoden may have been quite put out that the wizard took that horse, but remember, Gandalf needed speed above all else at that time, and Shadowfax was the fastest horse upon Middle Earth. That could be put down to necessity.

Shadowfax would bear no other rider after Gandalf; but that was the decision of Shadowfax...not something Gandalf did.
 
I think that whether or not someone is rude is up to the person who is on the receiving end.
 
That's just how Gandalf is... it adds to the whole mystery surrounding him, and sets him apart from everyone else. He has to keep that whole, I know more than I'm gonna tell ya thing going. I think that the start of the hobbit sums up Gandalf's personality, which is why I used a Gandalf quote in my signature.

 
Well, I had not noticed your signature until you mentioned it here. I too, love that line. Gandalf's meeting with Bilbo that morning is one of my very favorite parts in all the Tolkien books that I have read. Bilbo's meeting with Gandalf is the place where I knew that I was going to love anything wrote by Tolkien.
I did think he was rude to Bilbo Baggins, but I liked Gandalf all the same. I was so happy to find out that he had a big part in The lord of the Rings wherein he did not seem so rude. I think everything Gandalf does/says in justified, rude or not.


PS: Check this out elf boy

Just a friendly reminder
 
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I don't think gandalf was trying to be rude. but then i've never seen him that way, and couldn't imagine him like that.
He was probably just trying to strike up a conversation or something.
 
I don't think that Gandalf was Trying to be rude. I think that Bilbo Baggins felt that he was rude though. It's easy enough to be rude without realising that you are being rude, let alone trying to be.
 
I've come to the conclusion that Gandalf had somehow forced himself to be rude if he were to influence Bilbo into joining him on their adventure. His rudeness, was merely to trigger Bilbo's "Took stubborness". Bilbo, didn't want to be thought ill of, so he decided that to prove himself he must embark on such an adventure.
 
Well I think Bilbo Baggins is a push-over, and if he is, Gandalf would know it. I'm not saying that Bilbo had no principals though; if he thought soemthing morally wrong he would not do it. This adventure thing with the Dwarves was something he did not think wrong, but feared, not only danger but of what he would become. I think that Bilbo wanted adventure but was brought up in a society where such things were looked down upon. The pressure from his people caused him to deeply burry is sense of adventure and wandering. Gandalf beat it out of him with persistance. Both Bilbo's conforming in his society, and his being a push-over probably go hand in hand and are the effects of a single aspect of his personality. Bilbo is strong, but I think sensetive to what others think of him.
 
Gandalf isn't rude per se but he is very matter-of-fact. He accomplished what he needed to do. If he hadn't have been rude to Bilbo, just think...Gollum might have had the ring when the dark side sought him.*shudder*

Until then...
The Cloaked Shadow
 
"Gandalf isn't rude per se but he is very matter-of-fact."

Okay...

"If he hadn't have been rude to Bilbo, just think..."

Hmmm?
 

I agree!!!!
 
I know...I have thought about what would happen if Bilbo hadn't been pushed out his front door by Gandalf and his 'dwarfish posse' (don't ask, the posse thing is an inside joke...), then Gollum might still have had the ring when Sauron sent his little goonies out to look for it. I didn't think Gandalf was rude...I thought his response was hilarious! I've been saying that myself to other people on Monday mornings especially...

Until next time...
The Cloaked Shadow
 
When someone says 'Good Morning' to me on Mondays (or other generally horrible mornings...) I say:

"What do you mean? Do you wish me a good morning, or mean that it is a good morning whether I want it or not; or that you feel good this morning; or that it is a morning to be good on?"

-Gandalf / JRRT, The Hobbit
 
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