Is Mankind kind fading right now?

jallan · Mar 30, 2003

Things are fading?

Certainly it is possible in a way that it was not possible one hundred years ago or before for mankind to put an end to mankind, perhaps all life.

It is also possible for any two people in the world who share a language to communication ideas through the internet, and increasingly the wealth of all available knowledge for all cultures is becoming available on the internet, to anyone who uses it.

Lies spread more easily, but it is also easier to debunk them.

As Charles Dickents wrote in A Tale of Two Cities:

IT WAS the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way – in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.

The_Swordmaster · Apr 7, 2003

Here is a quote I heard by Albert Einstien that i think involves somewhat that we are talking about here.

Qoute by Albert Einstien
I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

This quote for some reason scares me a little because it is the truth. I find this as a warning more than anything else.

de_uda · Apr 19, 2003

With the world fast becoming a more and more individual place, peolpe are looking out for themselves. Human nature also drives, our desires. Wanting to be the best, the most powerful. For example, look at sport, what was once an entertainment for children has now become one of the most competitive environments, and also one of the best ways to gain power and money. The two drivers behind human desire (power and money), the wants and greed to always have the most money, the most power, the most recognition.
Thats my opinion.

elfgirl · Apr 20, 2003

In human nature, there is nothing about "money". Also, define money. A couple thousand years back, people used ROCKS as money. I think you mean power and goods (trading goods, food goods, etc.).

Feanorian · Apr 20, 2003

In human nature, there is nothing about "money". Also, define money. A couple thousand years back, people used ROCKS as money. I think you mean power and goods (trading goods, food goods, etc.).

Well what do you think gold is? Its a rock, money is power and came in many forms thousands of years ago. The people with the money are in control and thats how it has always and probably will always be. Money is in a way in human nature, because money is greed, you can never get enough of it, and all humans are greedy to a degree.

elfgirl · Apr 20, 2003

I agree that all humans are greedy. Yet way back, people didn't have gold. They traded food for food, or clothing for clothing. It is the people with the items that are in control.

Feanorian · Apr 21, 2003

It is the people with the items that are in control.

Items were money then, there have always been rich and poor and there always will be.

de_uda · Apr 21, 2003

By money, i mean possessions. For example in the stone age, meat would've had the value. By money i meant the greed to have the most or the best of the best.

Lúthien Séregon · Apr 23, 2003

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

That's a frightening quote...all the more frightening because it is true.
I believe that humankind is heading towards its end...there must be a conclusion to everything. I dearly hope that there will never be a nuclear war, if there is, it would wipe out everything in its vicinity.
Even without the threat of war, the world population is now over 6.5 billion, assuming that the rate of growth will remain the same the world population could possible be at 15,900,800,000 people at the end of this century. How is it possible to maintain Earth AND a population this huge?

Feanorian · Apr 23, 2003

It is true that man kind is in the gutter, however my religious beliefs teaches me that only God knows when the world will be ended and it will be by his hand, and not those of men, so I do not fear Nuclear War. I think Earth could house all those people, there are many uninhabited places that would just need to be cleared and developed, I do not think food is an issue.

jallan · Apr 24, 2003

Feanorean posted:

I think Earth could house all those people, there are many uninhabited places that would just need to be cleared and developed, I do not think food is an issue.

Where are these places Feanorean?

The starving people of the world can’t find them.

The amount of desert in the world increases every year, in part because of destruction of trees and overuse of land for agricultural use and for pasture.

Feanorian · Apr 24, 2003

Look around the world for uninhabitited places. It would be harder to live because we already live in the best areas and thus the choices get worse and worse, but hey we have to survie. Of course there there is more desert every year, the world is basicly a living organism and grows older as all planets do. I think the aging process is sped up because of all the living things taking from the earth and all of the polution.

syongstar · Apr 25, 2003

elves

maybe this is why elves hide? should we not?elin silva luminin umonentilmo,where do e go from here?

Zale · Apr 25, 2003

If we are fading, who is to replace us as the Edain replaced the Eldar?

jallan · Apr 25, 2003

Feanorian posted:

Look around the world for uninhabitited places. It would be harder to live because we already live in the best areas and thus the choices get worse and worse, but hey we have to survie.

People don ’t have to survive. They can and do die, of starvation or disease.

Places of low habitation are such because they cannot support dense habitation by a community producing what it needs to survive. You can’t farm tundra or desert, for example.

I think the aging process is sped up because of all the living things taking from the earth and all of the polution.

But in the prosperous countries people are living longer on the average (presumably in part because of increased medical knowledge more than balancing the health problems caused by pollutionm for people who have access to better medical knowledge).

Where is there any evidence that aging of humans or animals has “speeded up” in historic times?

Kellivara · Apr 30, 2003

ah, but I think Feanorian meant the aging of the Earth itself, and not in the blessed way of trees growing older and wiser, but in the horrifying way of death and decay.....

Feanorian · May 1, 2003

Exactly, Kellivara. I am talking about pollution, global warming, etc and all that other good stuff. Meaning the atmosphere is becoming weaker and weaker and harmful things are coming in and being produced even on Earth.

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