Elbereth Vala Varda
Writer, poet, child of God
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Wonderful! Thank you for sharing! I will have to check it out.
Wonderful! Thank you for sharing! I will have to check it out.I listen on Spotify. But Im sure they are on most podcast platforms
Great!Wonderful! Thank you for sharing! I will have to check it out.
Thanks! I'm trying to remember to "Like" posts lately. Others on this Forum are vigilant about it, but I often forget, so sorry if I do not.Great!
Same hereThanks! I'm trying to remember to "Like" posts lately. Others on this Forum are vigilant about it, but I often forget, so sorry if I do not.
Good! Glad I am not alone!Same hereNo worries !
Ah yes, the Great Tolkien Fan Director. Just like PJ reading everything Tolkien and then giving us the twisted LotR and mangled Hobbit. Inspires much trust.Anyone else listens to The Prancing Pony podcast?
Well they have a new one about the TV show. They are highly knowledgeable about Tolkien and is as much worries as «us» about the show, but like me they seem kinda optimistic(yes we all know some things will be bad).
well the really cool thing is that they have met the directors and they are actually big Tolkien fan. From what I understood they were(at leasy one of them)reading the books before the movies, and not only LOTR but everything from The Hobbit to Tolkiens letters. They seem to understand the core of the original, and the themes of Tolkien.
Now Im not saying this will make the show 100% true to the books, but it gives me confident in knowing they highly respect and admire Tolkien.
The podcast is callee The Rings Of Power Wrap-up.
On a side note I reccomend their original podcast
Wait-- is this criticizing it, or praising it?
This, I can certainly agree with-- as I think that doing that would quite literally be impossible.It was never about creating movies or series 100% true to the books.
Rarely anyone expect that (even the hardcore fans).
Hath there been no Hope left? Shall all be doomed ere it come to pass?Very strongly criticizing it. That YouTuber is a very vocal critic of RoP.
I see. I didn't watch it actually, so I wanted to know it's general theme first. It probably isn't worth it.Very strongly criticizing it. That YouTuber is a very vocal critic of RoP.
We already know there are characters in the show that aren't from Tolkien and that it tells of events Tolkien never wrote about. Nobody is criticizing the show sight unseen. Between the trailers and the "influencers" hired by Amazon we've seen plenty to form an idea of where the show is going. Some of us are not interested in the "novel Tolkien never wrote."Hath there been no Hope left? Shall all be doomed ere it come to pass?
That is fair-- but no one can truly shape an opinion before seeing it.We already know there are characters in the show that aren't from Tolkien and that it tells of events Tolkien never wrote about. Nobody is criticizing the show sight unseen. Between the trailers and the "influencers" hired by Amazon we've seen plenty to form an idea of where the show is going. Some of us are not interested in the "novel Tolkien never wrote."
That is exactly what I meant when I said "ere it come to pass".before seeing it.
I respectfully disagree. Amazon is releasing trailers just for that very purpose. Heck, trailers, for movies and TV shows, are released with the hope that people will like what they see. People then form opinions, good or bad, on whether they want to see them. Obviously, the studios releasing the product would like the reactions to be favorable.That is fair-- but no one can truly shape an opinion before seeing it.
I appreciate your respectfulness on this. Disagreements are fine but bickering gets chaotic and childish. I respectfully disagree with you also, and maybe we can just leave it there.I respectfully disagree.
This video, at least in parts, is giving me the chills. The showrunners don't even try to hide the fact that all they were looking for was but a cash-cow to milk. Sad, to say the least.
I agree with this, despite trying to keep an optimistic view coming into it. I try to avoid talking about agendas, and things like that regarding it, but I have made a few posts like this myself. It is upsetting. Despite that, I am glad that it will introduce new-readers to Tolkien, and I am impressed by the cinematography I have seen so far.This video, at least in parts, is giving me the chills. The showrunners don't even try to hide the fact that all they were looking for was but a cash-cow to milk. Sad, to say the least.
Regardless of what I personally think about this show and the producer's choices of casting and script adaptation (though, in short, I agree with most of the points Disparu makes in this video), what really bugs me is that they are so blatantly using Tolkien's comprehensive work as a mere tool in order to push their own political agenda along. Especially in such a blatant "in your faces" kind of way.
If they could at least give good explanations for their choices that made sense within the context of Tolkien's work or at least within the medium it is going to be presented in! But no, all they ever mention is how proud they are of their progressive diversity. They don't even try to mask over the fact that they care more about their agenda than about Tolkien's work! Even in interviews, promotions, basically everything we've seen of this show so far. It is as if they went:
"Okay, we need to really push our political agenda forward for people to finally swallow it and in order to look as progressive as possible! Which giant fandom can we use for it the most effectively? Oh! How about Lord of the Rings? They're massive!".
Yeah. Nah. Not cool. That is what really rubs me the wrong way! No author's work deserves to be used as a tool for propaganda, no matter how "well-meaning" it may be. Especially not Tolkien's! It's so disrespectful of his great legacy.
Now apart from all that, one thing I really do appreciate about this show is that it introduces Tolkien's works to a whole lot of new people, that it draws interest and curiosity, that it revitalises the attention towards the professor's body of work. That in itself is amazing and should not be underestimated nor undervalued. I strongly prefer people to pick up Tolkien's books and according to that form their own opinion on whether they like how this show is presenting it or not over pushing my own opinion onto them. The show is gaining traction regarding Tolkien's legacy and of that I couldn't be more grateful because that is what he deserves!
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