Lord of the Rings on Prime Updates (Thanks Varking!)

[CirdanLinweilin]

Requesting Shippey

Is Oren "Orendil", Isildur?. Maybe a provisional nickname?.

Or they could just ask Shippey, yeah.


This doesn't bode faithfulness to the text if they can't even be faithful with something as simple as names!


CL

 

[Miguel]

Or they could just ask Shippey, yeah.


This doesn't bode faithfulness to the text if they can't even be faithful with something as simple as names!


CL

Yes, i agree the language etc has to be 100% correct.

 

[CirdanLinweilin]

Yes, i agree the language etc has to be 100% correct.

Indeed!


CL

 

[Olorgando]

Requesting Shippey

Is Oren "Orendil" Isildur?. Maybe a provisional nickname?.

As per my lexicons, Orendil was the eldest son of Eldacar II, the latter being the 21st King of Gondor (1432-37 and 1447-90 Third Age). Eldacar II in his turn was the son of Valacar, who had lived long among the Northmen of Rhovanion (at the wishes of his father Rómendacil II), and had married the daughter of their King Vidugavia, Vidumavi. Eldacar was thus seen by some in Gondor as "half-breed", which led to the rebellion and interregnum from 1437-1447 TA by the tyrannical Castamir the Usurper. Among Castamir's misdeed was the execution of Orendil.

 

[Erestor Arcamen]

Exclusive: Main Characters for Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ Revealed?

New details emerge regarding the lead characters of Amazon’s mysterious ‘Lord of the Rings’ TV series.

observer.com

 

[Olorgando]

Exclusive: Main Characters for Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ Revealed?

New details emerge regarding the lead characters of Amazon’s mysterious ‘Lord of the Rings’ TV series.

observer.com

Beldor; Tyra; Oren; Eldien (supposedly main character?); Neldor; Eira; Aric; Calenon; Loda; Kari; Hamson; Cole.
They're staying away from canon character names, it seems.

That said.
There's not that much canon about the Second Age, mostly from "Unfinished Tales":
"The line of Elros: Kings (missing: Queens!) of Númenor"
"Aldarion and Erendis: The Mariner's Wife"
"The history of Galadriel and Celeborn"

All of the "Rings" action takes place in Middle-earth.
1200 "... but the smiths of Eregion are won over [by Sauron, having been rebuffed by Gil-galad]"
1500 "The Elven-smiths … begin the forging of the Rings of Power"
1590 "The Three Rings are completed in Eregion"
1600 "Sauron forges the One Ring …"
1693 "War of the Elves and Sauron begins …"
1695 "Sauron's forces invade Eriador …"
1697 "Eregion laid waste. Death of Celebrimbor …"
1699 "Sauron overruns Eriador."
1700 "... Sauron is defeated"
1701 "Sauron is driven out of Eriador …"

But this is mostly Elven stuff. Gil-galad, Celebrimbor, Elrond, Cirdan … Galadriel and Celeborn in "cameos"?

Those names bandied about by the linked article and that I wrote above do not sound Elven.
And never mind the short character descriptions.
The latter sound just all too Seventh Age (I may have previously mentioned my severe Dallas 'n' Dynasty allergy …) 🤢

 

[Miguel]

Poulter left the project for scheduling problems. Also, that Bragollach in New Zealand was crazy.

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

Another addition to the cast:

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[Olorgando]

... Also, that Bragollach in New Zealand was crazy.

Wondering if that's the volcanic island I once (fairly recently) saw a documentary on.
Iffy, as I believe that access to that one was limited to professional volcanologists.
Not that some of those haven't made deadly mistakes.
Seems those pimples on the earth's surface continue to put our arrogance to shame again and again.
But then there's the Dunning-Kruger effect, probably responsible for more that half of what makes it into the evening news (or videotext).

 

[CirdanLinweilin]

Wondering if that's the volcanic island I once (fairly recently) saw a documentary on.
Iffy, as I believe that access to that one was limited to professional volcanologists.
Not that some of those haven't made deadly mistakes.
Seems those pimples on the earth's surface continue to put our arrogance to shame again and again.
But then there's the Dunning-Kruger effect, probably responsible for more that half of what makes it into the evening news (or videotext).

Toss a gold ring in.


XD


CL

 

[CirdanLinweilin]

This is very interesting, and a really good and faithful Tolkien music group, to boot!


https://www.change.org/p/amazon-hav...or-amazon-s-lord-of-the-rings-original-series





CL


You can see their talent in the Christmas Songs thread thanks to Aldarion's contribution.

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

"Young Galadriel" cast:

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[CirdanLinweilin]

"Young Galadriel" cast:

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I've seen her, she was in a film about how C Dickens wrote his beloved Christmas Carol, pretty good, I just wish I could see more of what she can do.


CL

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

That's reassuring, but, as the series is, if I understand correctly, limited to the Second Age, I wonder how big a part she'll have -- Galadriel didn't play a very prominent role during the era, compared to other characters.

Of course, they'll be inventing a lot of stuff, so who knows? I just hope we won't be seeing any PJ-style Arwen/Tauriel Elf Warrioress scenes from her.

BTW -- "Young" is a relative term, with Galadriel!

 

[CirdanLinweilin]

Of course, they'll be inventing a lot of stuff, so who knows? I just hope we won't be seeing any PJ-style Arwen/Tauriel Elf Warrioress scenes from her.

BTW -- "Young" is a relative term, with Galadriel!

I mean, wasn't she some type of athlete in Aman, or something like that? I might have to go find where I read that....(of course, I don't expect Amazon to know that at all).


And yes, very relative.
XD



CL

 

[Olorgando]

YOUNG Galadriel?!?!? She was born in Valinor in the days of the two trees, sometime during the three Valian Ages that Melkor was held prisoner there (at first in Mandos). At the time of the rebellion of Fëanor she was an adult Elf and counted among the (junior - JRRT never quite finalized this) leaders of The Noldor. If she had been born in the first Valian Age of the captivity of Melkor in Valinor, she could have been upwards of 20 000 sun years old at the rebellion! (And Cirdan would be way beyond 30 000 - at the end of the Third (sun) Age pushing or past 40 000.)
My fanfic rash is already starting to act up severely ...

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

She was certainly more "active" in the First Age than the Second, IIRC.

YOUNG Galadriel?!?!?

I think we were typing at the same time.

 

[Olorgando]

... Galadriel didn't play a very prominent role during the era [Second Age], compared to other characters. ...

Not in the War of Sauron and the Elves over the rings. Some dusty memory from UT or HoMe has her going through Moria (or up to Rivendell and over the pass that "The Hobbit" cast failed to traverse above-ground?) on the Way to Lothlórien or something of the sort, before that war got started.
At the end of the Third Age, anyway, she was the only original holder of one of the three Great Elven Rings that Celebrimbor had given these to. Gil-galad had given his to Elrond before he perished in the combat with Sauron (together with Elendil) on the slopes of Mount Doom at the end of the Second Age, while Cirdan had given his to Gandalf when the latter arrived in Middle-earth at about the year 1000 Third Age.

 

[Miguel]

"Young Galadriel" cast:

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My god, what a flower.

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

I had no exact image in mind, but an impression of wisdom and dignity. I thought Cate conveyed that creditably -- at least from distant memory of the films.

"Scary Galadriel" is another matter, and down to PJ's misreading.