Gil-galad was born in Middle-earth after his father journeyed from Eldamar in the Rebellion of the Noldor, whether his father was Fingon or Orodreth, so no ban against his sailing into the West was ever set. Galadriel, however, was one of the leaders of the Noldor and also one of the leaders of their Rebellion: she did face a ban on her return; or at least, she did in Tolkien’s mind as late as 1967.Si, but i was referring to the remaining exiles at the end of 1st age not the 3rd.
Do not speak ill of yourself: Your enemies will gladly save you the trouble.Por cierto...
It is this telling of the story of Galadriel that informs The Lord of the Rings, and that in the final year or two of his life Tolkien thought to undo and rewrite. Galin (or “Ando” if he insists) and I prefer the telling published in Tolkien’s lifetime: it is more poignant, more beautiful, and far sadder than Tolkien’s attempts to retell the tale with a “pristine” Galadriel.
When she rejects the Ruling Ring, she has made her choice: whether she is permitted to take ship and go voluntarily or not, she knows her spirit, her fëa, will go into the West when her body dies, and that she will surely in Middle-earth through mischance, mistake, or malice under the Dominion of Men and without the powers she had at her disposal until then.
Do not speak ill of yourself: Your enemies will gladly save you the trouble.
Agreed.Do not speak ill of yourself: Your enemies will gladly save you the trouble.
If anything, her redemption in the published LOTR is More Catholic, and I am a Catholic saying that.And we really don't understand why Tolkien wrote his late adumbrated tale. I [Galin] once wrangled with someone over at Minas Tirith forums who claimed that the impetus behind this revision was JRRT's faith, and that that should thus take precedence over Tolkien-published texts. Needless to say I disagreed with the "canon distinction" there, and find the penitent Galadriel no less Catholic/Christian in any case . . . plus, Tolkien had already spoken to the Virgin Mary comparison in nearly the same breath as calling her a penitent (in one of his letters).
Gil-galad was born in Middle-earth after his father journeyed from Eldamar in the Rebellion of the Noldor, whether his father was Fingon or Orodreth, so no ban against his sailing into the West was ever set. Galadriel, however, was one of the leaders of the Noldor and also one of the leaders of their Rebellion: she did face a ban on her return; or at least, she did in Tolkien’s mind as late as 1967.
Do not speak ill of yourself: Your enemies will gladly save you the trouble.
I think it's just a "saying" . . . not meant to refer to any specific enemies of anyone, but rather to put a clever stamp on the first part of the message.
Still confused. I dont' really know how you look at it but to me it sounds threatning and sketchy so, no. Still waiting for an actual explanation.
don't talk negatively or ill about yourself, your enemies will do that for you
I don't think anyone here was trying to insult anyone else or anything
Does this mean he's back?
If so, hurrah!
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