Silmarillion Movie

[Bard the Bowman]

What are people's thoughts on a tv show? Or a mini-series? For example, in the Silmarillion mini-series Melkor's darkening of Valinor could be one movie.

 

[Adanedhel]

i agree with the idea of making a mini-series film of the silmarillion, where every chapter would be an episode. i think also that narn i hin hurin could become a nice movie with a few good battles. Or beren and luthien.

 

[Bard the Bowman]

The Children of Hurin is the story I want most to be made into a movies. I think though, that it would be at least two movies (at least!).

 

[Adanedhel]

and where would the first part end?

 

[Bard the Bowman]

Hmmm, good question. You could either end with Turin just joining the outlaws, but my personal choice would probably be after Gwindor restores Turin after he kills Beleg. It would be a fresh start.

 

[Black Captain]

A many series would be ideal, as long as it had good special effects and good actors. It would need to be very high budget.

 

[Adanedhel]

I 'd love to watch the Nirnaeth Arnoeniad in the silver screen. Elves, Balrogs, Men, Dragons, Dwarves, Orcs. What an epic battle!

 

[Bard the Bowman]

The Children of Hurin movie should start out with a prologue like Lord of the Rings did, "it began with the making of the three Silmarils. blah blah blah explaining briefly about the War of the Jewels and how the Noldor came to Beleriand and briefly touching on what happened up to the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. Then just as LOTR showed the Last Alliance this would show the Battle of Unnumbered Tears. It would focus mainly on Hurin though. I'm working on an outline for the movie(s), or whatever it turns out to be. I'll post it when I'm finished

 

[Black Captain]

The Children of Hurin movie should start out with a prologue like Lord of the Rings did, "it began with the making of the three Silmarils. blah blah blah explaining briefly about the War of the Jewels and how the Noldor came to Beleriand and briefly touching on what happened up to the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. Then just as LOTR showed the Last Alliance this would show the Battle of Unnumbered Tears. It would focus mainly on Hurin though. I'm working on an outline for the movie(s), or whatever it turns out to be. I'll post it when I'm finished

Cool. I'll edit.

 

[Adanedhel]

i agree with the prologue but i would prefere to see an extended edition of the Nirnaeth (like the battle in the pelennor fields). Imagine it!
About the number of the parts of the movie "the Children of Hurin", i think it would be nice of making a trilogy (again!). The first part would end with the arrival of Turin at the lawlesses and the second part with the fall of Nargothrond. What do you think?

 

[Bard the Bowman]

Certainly the Nirnaeth Arnoediad would be extended. I was thinking the prologue would not even include the battle, it would simply lead up to the battle, and the actual movie start at the time of the battle, or before. Like maybe when Hurin is about to leave. I'll explain it all in my outline. As far as 3 movies go, perhaps. However I think they should end at Turin being expelled from Doriath, Gwindor healing him, and the last movie wraps it up. The biggest problem will be the names. The prologue will have to explain much, but can it explain enough?

 

[Sir Gawain d'Orchany]

I understand that the Silmarillion as a whole occurs over too long of a time period and has too many main characters for it ever to be a movie. But there is one part of it that I believe could be a adapted into a very good movie. That is the story of Beren and Luthien. Of all the stories in the Silmarillion, this would require the least back story and it follows just two characters over a relatively short period of time. And the story itself is amazing, probably my favorite in the book. Plus, it has some semblance of a happy ending, unlike just about all the other tales in the Sil. The story of Turin would make a good movie too, but it would be far too depressing! I think a Beren and Luthien movie could work, and I know I would love to see it on screen.

Any thoughts?

Either that or The Fall of Gondolin would make great movies. The Fall of Gondolin would be an epic trilogy

 

[Halasían]

Sadly, with the latest words I hear about the Amazon TV series, it will seem that NOTHING Middle Earth related can be brought to movie or TV screens without PJ having his hand in it.

 

[CirdanLinweilin]

it will seem that NOTHING Middle Earth related can be brought to movie or TV screens without PJ having his hand in it

Tell me you are JOKING.


CL

 

[Halasían]

I wish I was. Apparently it is up tp PJ to decide if he will work on the TV series or some DC projects. I'll see if I can find the link.

Edit: Say it isn't so Joe....

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

Aargh.

 

[CirdanLinweilin]

I wish I was. Apparently it is up tp PJ to decide if he will work on the TV series or some DC projects. I'll see if I can find the link.

Eru help us all....

(And God.)


CL

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

I keep telling myself to stay away from movie/TV threads, but something brought me back to this one (I'm looking at YOU, CL! )

The need for a prologue was mentioned a couple of times above. That may be necessary in a Silmarillion movie, but I thought the one in FOTR was a mistake. I know that "no one ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of his audience", and all, but I found it to be another example of the "anticipation" that Tolkien warned about.

One of the things that captivated me, on first reading LOTR, was the sense of mystery, or actually a series of unfolding mysteries, that we follow Frodo through, as Bilbo's ring, which he merely thinks "may be useful", turns out to be the Ring.

He (and we) learn something of its history and significance from Gandalf, but then have to experience an entire book of adventures before leaning more of its long story. And those experiences are important for understanding. For instance, Gandalf mentions the Nine briefly, but does not, of course, know that they have arisen. Therefore, Frodo doesn't connect them with the Black Riders he encounters, until receiving more information from Strider, and then at the Council. Until then, they remain a mystery (or to be less anachronistic, perhaps I should say "riddle", as that's the term Tolkien uses consistently). By then he has had direct experience with them, making the information he receives much more meaningful.

By putting so much of this in the prologue, the movie, it seems to me, "flattens out" the mystery. The solution, if PJ wanted (understandably) to avoid long stretches of expostional dialog, would have been to place the "flashback" sequences in their proper places, accompanying the stories of Gandalf at Bag End, and Elrond at the Council, for instance.

 

[CirdanLinweilin]

I keep telling myself to stay away from movie/TV threads, but something brought me back to this one (I'm looking at YOU, CL! )

Sorry Bro, totally was not my intention.


Good explanation though.


CL

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

Oh, I'm just joshing.

I can't blame someone else, if I can't control myself!