Ardamir the Blessed
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I have wondered if Beren and LĂșthienâs grave was intact in the Third Age. It isnât certain where their final resting place was:
The Silmarillion:
But if we assume that the grave was located in Tol Galen, did this area exist, without being too much changed in the Third Age? If it did, it certainly wasnât an island anymore, because there werenât any islands in Lindon.
According to this map of Beleriand and Eriador combined, Tol Galen was located in Harlindon in the Third Age:
This map is part of an investigation on the geographical relation between Beleriand and Eriador by Ronald Kyrmse.
The river Adurant, whose divided course created the island of Tol Galen, ceased perhaps to exist in Lindon:
The Lost Road and Other Writings, The Fall of NĂșmenor:
Appendix A:
The Silmarillion:
I guess âafterwardsâ means that the Eldar called the country the Land of the Dead that Live while they knew that Beren and LĂșthien were living there.Then Beren and LĂșthien went forth alone, fearing neither thirst nor hunger; and they passed beyond the River Gelion into Ossiriand, and dwelt there in Tol Galen the green isle, in the midst of Adurant, until all tidings of them ceased. The Eldar afterwards called that country Dor Firn-i-Guinar, the Land of the Dead that Live; and there was born Dior Aranel the beautiful, who was after known as Dior EluchĂl, which is Thingol's Heir. No mortal man spoke ever again with Beren son of Barahir; and none saw Beren or LĂșthien leave the world, or marked where at last their bodies lay.
But if we assume that the grave was located in Tol Galen, did this area exist, without being too much changed in the Third Age? If it did, it certainly wasnât an island anymore, because there werenât any islands in Lindon.
According to this map of Beleriand and Eriador combined, Tol Galen was located in Harlindon in the Third Age:
This map is part of an investigation on the geographical relation between Beleriand and Eriador by Ronald Kyrmse.
The river Adurant, whose divided course created the island of Tol Galen, ceased perhaps to exist in Lindon:
It seems that the part of Ossiriand that remained, remained because LĂșthien (and Beren) had dwelt there:For so great was the fury of those adversaries that the northern regions of the western world were rent asunder, and the sea roared in through many chasms, and there was confusion and great noise; and rivers perished or found new paths, and the valleys were upheaved and the hills trod down; and Sirion was no more.
The Lost Road and Other Writings, The Fall of NĂșmenor:
Beleriand fell into the sea in that time, all save the land where Beren and LĂșthien had dwelt for a while, the land of Lindon beneath the western feet of the [struck out: Ered] Lunoronti.
So, I think the area of Tol Galen remained in the Third Age, and if Beren and LĂșthienâs grave was there, it remained too.
Appendix A:


