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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power – Teaser Trailer

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And yes, they pretend to care about diversity, but that's just the excuse they'll use to ban Tolkien's books in the future for racism.

I can't imagine that. If anything, some passages will be censored and rewritten.

Something similar has already happened in Germany: There was a new, but very bad translation adapted to modern language. This has also caused a lot of discussion in the community. In the meantime, this version has been revised again, and the worst parts have been undone.

Therefore it is always good to have physical copies of your "precious". Who knows how long this version will be available?

It's nothing quite so sinister. Amaz*n is trying to use the popularity of LotR for financial gain, to make Amaz*n's shareholders a shed load of money, and they don't care whose legacy they trample on in order to do it. It's greed, pure and simple.

I agree with that in part.
But what I find a bit strange is that Amazon has an absurdly high budget for the series. So why can't or won't they afford showrunners and writers who have already proven that they are really good and up to the task? These two hipsters JD Payne and P. McKay have never been able to prove that they are worthy for the realization of such an important material.
 
If anything, some passages will be censored and rewritten.
That is unlikely-- vanishing point unlikely.

This is not to say translations won't differ-- but that's been going on since first publication.
 
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Yes, that version by Wolfgang Krege published in 2000 (and revised by the publishers in 2012). Apparently he also did something similar to his 1998 translation of "The Hobbit" - trying to be funnier than the original and geared more to a grownup readership, according to the critique.
For LoTR, Krege tried to correct one difficulty in the original translation of 1969/70 by Margaret Carroux (the poems were handled by another translator), in that the wide range of speaking styles of the original were not represented adequately in that translation - definitely a difficult proposition, in any case. Unfortunately Krege chose the German current at the time of his translation, the 1990's, as his jump-off point - a bad idea. But I must also fault the authors of the German Wikipedia articles on the matter if they mean to imply that JRRT wrote as was common in England of the (thirties and) forties (perhaps except for the Orcs ...). At least in the aspect of language JRRT was not a writer of his generation; in other aspects, as Verlyn Flieger, Tom Shippey and others have noted, he very much was a modern (not modernist, as I've mentioned before) writer, specifically a post-WW I writer.
 
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Unlike LoTR and The Hobbit, there just isn't enough material we know about in the 2nd Age that would cause us to react too negatively to extra fluff that is put in there. My concern is that the stuff we DO know about will not be treated with respect to the source material. Hopefully what we know about Celebrimbor, Numenor and Sauron as it was in the 2nd age, will be treated with the sanctity it deserves. And perhaps I might be alone in this...but considering how the MCU did so fantastically in de-aging actors to their prime, I would have liked to see Cate Blanchett and Hugo Weaving reprise their roles and just de-age them a bit. I'm not overly keen on two new actors playing the characters but I guess it is to be expected.
 
Annatar said: "I can't imagine that. If anything, some passages will be censored and rewritten."

Just like Peter Jackson did with The Lord of the Rings.


Like who? Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and Phillipa Boyens?
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Thanks for a common sense-ish post here! I agree, and after there are a few episodes watched, we will have a better reference to decide how it will work out. I however don't agree with your thoughts on the de-aging CGI of the old Peter Jackson actors though.
 
I was very critical of PJ's film version back in the day, but compared to this abomination, the old films seem downright masterpieces.
Not sure that it's a comforting thought to us book nerds, but PJ's LoTR trilogy of 2001-03 may have been the high point of Middle-earth filming, large screen or small.
 
I was very critical of PJ's film version back in the day, but compared to this abomination, the old films seem downright masterpieces.
I'm reminded of an old regional joke:

Q. How many Virginians does it take to change a light bulb?

A. Three. One to change the bulb, and two to talk about how much better the old one was.
 
It was the last point. The rest that come cannot even be considered Middle-earth. Just some ill-intentioned analogy.
That film-makers are faced with an almost impossible task in converting books to film does not surprise me - at least when the filming of a book series does not overlap with the writing of the books. This overlap was the case with J.K. Rowling's "Harry Potter" series, and with G.R.R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" series, which got the title of Martin's first book of that series when brought to the (small) screen as "Game of Thrones" by HBO.

The hard fact is that books and films each have their own strengths and weaknesses. No book can match the visuals of a film shot (though a still picture that does not haste on to the next gaga thrill as the filmmakers seem to think necessary might be better); no film (especially viewed in a cinema - having a DVD that you can rewind is a slightly different matter) can catch the nuances of language, or pretty much anything that needs a slow build-up, that a book can. I've gotten sick of Peter Jackson and others trying to explain the "needs of the film medium". which turn out to be perhaps needs of the director, here Jackson, or needs assumed by a much more pathetic sector of humanity, film producers.

I'll drag up my favorite epithet for this bunch, the "cookie cutter". Gotta have this, gotta have that - and "the audience wants this!" Problem is, from what I've read about this bunch (in books by / about people who have suffered from their incomprehension) is that if there is one thing they lack, it is the slightest respect for their audience, their customers. Maybe because they're always trying to go for that lowest 5% (or whatever the percentage may be) of trolls. This might be analogous to what I dimly remember of my time in a US high school 1970-73. There were at least the courses that were considered honors courses, only by taking which you could get the maximum score for your grade-point-average, 5.0. Perfect score in a non-honors course only got you a 4.5 (as did less than perfect scores in an honors course). What may have existed two steps down from that honors course (if it existed) I do not know.

I'll now jump to my US college time. Had a buddy there who might have been a genius at physics. He was taking graduate courses when a sophomore (second of four years of undergraduate study). He had one problem. Our college had a foreign language requirement. That was his extreme weak point, but he just managed to pass.

So let's return to a film theater.
in JRRT's legendarium (and the average film theater), there are Elves, Númenóreans, Dwarves, Rohirrim, Hobbits, Orcs and Trolls.
The problem?
The producers are aiming to get that lowest whatsit (the Trolls) into the cinemas. They're insulting maybe 95% of the remaining audience. But to have a certified blockbuster, sacrifices must be made ... 🤬🤬🤬
 
I'm reminded of an old regional joke:
Q. How many Virginians does it take to change a light bulb?
A. Three. One to change the bulb, and two to talk about how much better the old one was.
Ummmmm ... meaning those other two preferred sitting around in the dark? Why am I not surprised ...
 
No, that's a Jewish mother joke.
"No, don't mind me, I'll just sit here in the dark".
 
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