🐴 The Lord of the Rings: The ⚔️War of the Rohirrim

Annatar · Feb 16, 2022

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
The only reference I've found-- so far -- is in Appendix A, which has:

Four years later (2758) great troubles came to Rohan, and no help could be sent from Gondor, for three fleets of Corsairs attacked it and there was war on all its coasts. At the same time Rohan was again invaded from the East, and the Dunlendings seeing their chance came over the Isen and down from Isengard. It was soon known that Wulf was their leader. They were in great force, for they were joined by enemies of Gondor that landed at the mouths of Lefnui and Isen.

So I suppose the appearance of oliphants on the plains of Rohan could be justified -- though they're associated in the texts with Harad, rather than Umbar.

Thank you for the quote.

I think this is the key:

"At the same time Rohan was again invaded from the East".

I had forgotten about that.

Now I'm quite sure they will interpret the invasion from the east that way:

1st wave: Orcs
2nd wave: Easterlings
3rd wave: Haradrim
4th wave: Haradrim riding Mumakil
5th wave: Trolls riding Mumakil
6th wave: Wargs riding Mumakil
7th wave: Nazgul riding Mumakil
8th wave: Mumakil riding Mumakil

Ealdwyn · Feb 16, 2022

The 8th wave is the part I'm looking forward to

Olorgando · Feb 16, 2022

Annatar said:
Now I'm quite sure they will interpret the invasion from the east that way:
...
8th wave: Mumakil riding Mumakil

Ealdwyn said:
The 8th wave is the part I'm looking forward to

Maybe they could have the Mûmakil jump over the walls using trampolines ...

https://thetolkien.forum/threads/tolkien-artwork.29637/post-549392

Annatar · Feb 16, 2022

Olorgando said:
Maybe they could have the Mûmakil jump over the walls using trampolines ...

Good idea, but then the Mumakil would have to be trained in the circus for years beforehand. I don't know if Sauron has that much time.
The Mumakil could therefore use their trunks to throw wargs over the wall, which would then spit an orc out of their mouths as they fly.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Feb 16, 2022

Halasían · Feb 16, 2022

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
The only reference I've found-- so far -- is in Appendix A, which has:

Four years later (2758) great troubles came to Rohan, and no help could be sent from Gondor, for three fleets of Corsairs attacked it and there was war on all its coasts. At the same time Rohan was again invaded from the East, and the Dunlendings seeing their chance came over the Isen and down from Isengard. It was soon known that Wulf was their leader. They were in great force, for they were joined by enemies of Gondor that landed at the mouths of Lefnui and Isen.

So I suppose the appearance of oliphants on the plains of Rohan could be justified -- though they're associated in the texts with Harad, rather than Umbar.

All jokes aside, this is also in Appendix A in the section 'Stewards':

'In the days of Beren, the ninteenth Steward, an even greater peril came upon Gondor. Three great fleets, long prepared, came up from Umbar and the Harad, and assailed the coasts of Gondor in great force; and the enemy made many landings, even as far north as the mouth of the Isen. At the time Rohan was assailed from the west and the east, and the land was overrun, and they were driven into the dales of the White Mountains. In that year (2758) the Long Winter began with cold and great snows out of the north and the east which lasted for almost five months. Helm of Rohan and both his sons perished in that war, and there was misery and death in Eriador and in Rohan. But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan. He was the greatest captain that had arisen in Gondor since Boromir; and when he succeeded his father (2763) Gondor began to recover its strength. But Rohan was slower to be healed of the hurts that it had received. It was for this reason that Beren welcomed Saruman, and gave to him the keys of Orthanc; and from that year on (2759) Saruman dwelt in Isengard.'

That is J.R.R. Tolkien's own words. Being this project is primarily based on that part of the appendices, and one of the icons of Harad is the Mûmakil, it isn't much of a reach for the producers of this show to have them be a part in this battle.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Feb 20, 2022

Suspicions confirmed: people from TheOneRing.net read TTF! 🤣

Mûmakil, Harad and The War of the Rohirrim

It appears that the appearance of Mûmakil in the recent Warner Bros. concept art has sparked dire thoughts that the production is already going off-track and that the apocalypse is nigh. Fear not: I think people are misremembering the contents of Appendix A of The Lord of the Rings. That's okay...

www.theonering.net

Halasían · Feb 20, 2022

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
Suspicions confirmed: people from TheOneRing.net read TTF! 🤣

Mûmakil, Harad and The War of the Rohirrim

It appears that the appearance of Mûmakil in the recent Warner Bros. concept art has sparked dire thoughts that the production is already going off-track and that the apocalypse is nigh. Fear not: I think people are misremembering the contents of Appendix A of The Lord of the Rings. That's okay...

www.theonering.net

... and they didn't even give us credit...
🤣

Annatar · Feb 21, 2022

TheOneRing.net is a pseudo-fan site that was obviously bought by Amazon.
Their main task now is to call anyone who doesn't like the Amazon series a racist.

After Calling The Lord Of The Rings Fans Racist, Woke The Lord Of The Rings Fan Site Claims To Be Safe Haven For Debate

The Lord of the Rings fan site, TheOneRing.net, which has quickly spiraled into a outlet plugging woke identity politics and has accused Tolkien of being woke is now attacking The Lord of the Rings by implying they are racist. On top of this, after calling fans racist, they have the gall to...

boundingintocomics.com

Squint-eyed Southerner · Feb 21, 2022

It was started by fans before the movies came out. No need to embrace conspiracy theories.

Annatar · Feb 21, 2022

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
It was started by fans before the movies came out.

Yes, they were a good source back then.
But it has unfortunately changed a lot with the series.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Feb 21, 2022

They were hyping the movies, now they're hyping the series.

Doesn't seem like a big change.

Annatar · Feb 21, 2022

They didn't attack and insult the fans back then, that's the difference.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Feb 21, 2022

I wasn't really following them at the time. How did they treat NPW's back then?

Annatar · Feb 21, 2022

What do you mean? What's NPW?
Non Pregnant Women?
Nuclear Powered Warship??
No Problem Whatsoever???

Squint-eyed Southerner · Feb 21, 2022

Nit Picking Weenies.

That may be exclusive to TTF. 😄

But I imagine they have an equivalent.

Annatar · Feb 21, 2022

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
But I imagine they have an equivalent.

Yeah, their equivalent is "racist".

Squint-eyed Southerner · Feb 21, 2022

I don't think that's it. 🙄

For some context on the subject of NPW's (among whom I count myself), here's a post on a relatively early thread:

https://thetolkien.forum/threads/arrrrrrrrrgh.15031/post-403121

Annatar · Feb 21, 2022

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
For some context on the subject of NPW's (among whom I count myself), here's a post on a relatively early thread:

https://thetolkien.forum/threads/arrrrrrrrrgh.15031/post-403121

Then I'd say that I'm 90% NPW and only 10% FAD. Although, curiously, I've written here almost only about the film adaptations.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Feb 21, 2022

Yeah, that's about my percentage too.

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