Artist & Illustrator places it "no earlier than October 1944", and says it's "probably the last of his finished drawings" for LOTR. He seems to have made these to help him in imagining different scenes while writing, so I wwouldn't date it much after that.Is it known which year this picture is from?
I guess I got it backwards. Letter 246 says the creations made by the Ring WOULD have endured but Sauron would have been rendered destroyed utterly.
Hm. I know there was supernatural elements to it's construction but if it caused a "deafening crash and roar" MILES away, it MUST have been huge. Also it apparently was so heavy it cause geological issues.And then at last over the miles between there came a rumble, rising to a deafening crash and roar; the earth shook, the plain heaved and cracked, and Orodruin reeled.
It IS one of his better ones. We do know, however, that he revised his images as we see when Orthanc went from this (click to enlarge):Artist & Illustrator places it "no earlier than October 1944", and says it's "probably the last of his finished drawings" for LOTR. He seems to have made these to help him in imagining different scenes while writing, so I wwouldn't date it much after that.
Odd, since they're both genetically compatible and identical enough to pass as one another (see Túrin). What's your thought process behind that?All very good Art works. Some styles will be historical timepieces on the voyage/journey Tolkienism takes through the decades.
Sadly, not one of the Artworks evokes a sense of 'evil' or 'fear' when depicting Melkor or his contributions (orcs, trolls, etc).
They don't even scratch the surface close to H.R.Giger 'darkness'.
Seems every Elven character looks more 'human' than another 'alien' race apart from human. Just add pointy ears and 'feminine' look in the males - well, it just doesn't cut it for me. I've always seen the Elves as very 'un-human' (un-man) in their appearance. Almost 'alien' in their difference. Enough to scare even the hearts of men who stray too near their realms uninvited.
Well, Orcs are derived from men, elves, or Maia (or a combination thereof) it makes sense they'd be humanoid. Tolkien describes them as being at worst primate in appearance. The Ainur derived their appearances from the Children of Eru so they'd look humanoid as well.So too the Orcs. All of these artworks show a strong 'human' aspect in both Orcs and Elves and even the Valar.
Attached below, though I'm unsure how "alien" you want. [Click to enlarge]Luckily there were some artworks that captured a unique stylistic 'alien' appearance of landscape there that creates that 'other worldly' feel, like you've never seen here on earth.
lol Well, here's Tolkien's description of Legolas:Maybe one day, maybe myself ?? I might see an artwork that depicts the Elven as more than just pointy-ears, taller, slender and 'feminine' male looking.
Gee! These are Elves, these are reflections of the Valar's light and more. These are 'immortals' - and yet, still look more like men from an American Soapie crossed with Twilight. Are Elves nothing more than just replications of pre-pubescent boys with long hair?
JRRT may have liked to read (some) science fiction - but he was certainly not writing it.Seems every Elven character looks more 'human' than another 'alien' race apart from human.
Like Vulcans.And I'm quite certain that JRRT stated - my guess is that Humphrey Carpenter's 1981 book "The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien" is the source - that all humanoids in his writings, Elves, Dwarves and Orcs, represented some aspects of humanity, taken to extreme degrees (in the Elves, distinctly super-human).
How's this for "alien"? It's Sauron.All very good Art works. Some styles will be historical timepieces on the voyage/journey Tolkienism takes through the decades.
Sadly, not one of the Artworks evokes a sense of 'evil' or 'fear' when depicting Melkor or his contributions (orcs, trolls, etc).
They don't even scratch the surface close to H.R.Giger 'darkness'.
Seems every Elven character looks more 'human' than another 'alien' race apart from human. Just add pointy ears and 'feminine' look in the males - well, it just doesn't cut it for me. I've always seen the Elves as very 'un-human' (un-man) in their appearance. Almost 'alien' in their difference. Enough to scare even the hearts of men who stray too near their realms uninvited. So too the Orcs. All of these artworks show a strong 'human' aspect in both Orcs and Elves and even the Valar.
Luckily there were some artworks that captured a unique stylistic 'alien' appearance of landscape there that creates that 'other worldly' feel, like you've never seen here on earth.
Tolkien borrowed from 1st Age European myths/legends (before Christianity) of Pagan Europe. Added a sprinkle of Medieval, with a dash of Religion and delivered a flavour of Hobbits as if from the year 1899 AD in fashion. Sure, there are some artworks that deliver us this and some are structured around the 'children's book' of the Hobbit in their silliness and comic. But if Tolkienism is to be taken seriously in future generations, then the art must move into a more serious expression.
Tolkien did try to create a fabricated pre-history for Britain. But he also created 'another world' unlike this one, wether he liked it or not.
Maybe one day, maybe myself ?? I might see an artwork that depicts the Elven as more than just pointy-ears, taller, slender and 'feminine' male looking.
Gee! These are Elves, these are reflections of the Valar's light and more. These are 'immortals' - and yet, still look more like men from an American Soapie crossed with Twilight. Are Elves nothing more than just replications of pre-pubescent boys with long hair?
They are a Race 'unlike' Humans. (As are Dwarves, Orcs, etc).
Oh well.
Maybe I'm being too harsh and demanding. Sorry.
lol He actually reminds me of Black Manta from DC comics.How's this for "alien"? It's Sauron.
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