Vanyar heritage influence

[Ricardo]

Sorry I am bored and when I am bored my mind wanders around.

I was thinking about the 3 kindreds of elves:
1) The Vanyar, closer to the Valar, love poetry, music, more spiritual, and blonde hair (this is important actually).
2) The Noldor, the deep elves, like crafts, knowledge.
3) The Teleri, love water and music.

Well, the point is, we know Fingolfin and Finarfin are both the sons of Finwe (a pure Noldor) and Indis (a pure Vanyar), so they are 50% of each kindred. But Fingolfin has the dark hair of the Noldor while Finarfin has the blonde hair of the Vanyar.

Fingolfin's wife is Anaire, presumably a Noldor, so Fingolfin's children would be 25% Vanyar and 75% Noldor.

But Idril's mother is 100% Vanyar, which makes her 62.5% Vanyar and 37.5% Noldor, Notice that Idril is the only one in the house of Fingolfin with blonde hair.

Now Finarfin married Earwen, a Teleri, so Finrod, Angrod, Aegnor, Galadriel (and Orodreth?) are 50% Teleri, 25% Vanyar and 25% Noldor.

But regardless, they all have blonde hair, like if Finarfin, despite having the same heritage as Fingolfin, have more influence from his Vanyar side.

Fingolfin and his children are more leaders, and warriors, there isn't any display of magic from them, just battle prowess.

Finarfin and his children seem to be wiser, more caring, and at least 2 of them (Finrod and Galadriel) are powerful at magic.

Then Idril has the gift of foresight, and she seems to be more down to earth (down to Arda?) than her close relatives.

Is the Vanyar influence making Idril and Finarfin's children more spiritual, kind of closer to the Valar and Iluvatar?

Am I making any sense?

 

[Server Room Gremlin]

It does make sense to me. When reading people's fanfiction, I've noticed it's quite common for them to assume that having Vanya heritage is what allowed the children of Finarfin to be so powerful in these 'magical'/spiritual ways.

 

[Ricardo]

It does make sense to me. When reading people's fanfiction, I've noticed it's quite common for them to assume that having Vanya heritage is what allowed the children of Finarfin to be so powerful in these 'magical'/spiritual ways.

Yes, but those Vanyar qualities seem to only be present in the Finarfin line, and Idril, but she was more Vanyar than Noldor.

 

[Glorfindel Goldtress]

Yes, and Elenwë, Turgon's wife, is a full Vanya. So it makes sense Idril would have those stronger traits.

Perhaps in the majority of Fingolfin's house, Vanyarin traits are more diluted. They are also all notably dark-haired, other than Idril. Interestingly, those with light hair seem to have stronger Vanyarin traits, so perhaps it is a visual indication of Finarfin's line being heritably "more Vanyarin" due to whatever combination of traits so happened to come from Indis. Perhaps in general, being blonde with such lineage could be an outward sign of the Vanyarin heritage simply running more strongly in them.

 

[Ricardo]

Yes, and Elenwë, Turgon's wife, is a full Vanya. So it makes sense Idril would have those stronger traits.

Perhaps in the majority of Fingolfin's house, Vanyarin traits are more diluted. They are also all notably dark-haired, other than Idril. Interestingly, those with light hair seem to have stronger Vanyarin traits, so perhaps it is a visual indication of Finarfin's line being heritably "more Vanyarin" due to whatever combination of traits so happened to come from Indis. Perhaps in general, being blonde with such lineage could be an outward sign of the Vanyarin heritage simply running more strongly in them.

Yes, but I am not sure how the Vanyarin traits are more diluted in the house of Fingolfin.

Fingolfin's wife was presumably a Noldo, but Finarfin wife was a Teleri, so same situation.

Turgon married a Vanya, Aredhel only had one son who didn't have children. Fingon might or might not been Gil-Galad's father but in any case the lineage died there and Argon had no children.

The Vanyar traits were more diluted in the house of Fingolfin starting with Fingolfin himself

 

[ZehnWaters]

Sorry I am bored and when I am bored my mind wanders around.

I was thinking about the 3 kindreds of elves:
1) The Vanyar, closer to the Valar, love poetry, music, more spiritual, and blonde hair (this is important actually).
2) The Noldor, the deep elves, like crafts, knowledge.
3) The Teleri, love water and music.

Well, the point is, we know Fingolfin and Finarfin are both the sons of Finwe (a pure Noldor) and Indis (a pure Vanyar), so they are 50% of each kindred. But Fingolfin has the dark hair of the Noldor while Finarfin has the blonde hair of the Vanyar.

Fingolfin's wife is Anaire, presumably a Noldor, so Fingolfin's children would be 25% Vanyar and 75% Noldor.

But Idril's mother is 100% Vanyar, which makes her 62.5% Vanyar and 37.5% Noldor, Notice that Idril is the only one in the house of Fingolfin with blonde hair.

Now Finarfin married Earwen, a Teleri, so Finrod, Angrod, Aegnor, Galadriel (and Orodreth?) are 50% Teleri, 25% Vanyar and 25% Noldor.

But regardless, they all have blonde hair, like if Finarfin, despite having the same heritage as Fingolfin, have more influence from his Vanyar side.

Fingolfin and his children are more leaders, and warriors, there isn't any display of magic from them, just battle prowess.

Finarfin and his children seem to be wiser, more caring, and at least 2 of them (Finrod and Galadriel) are powerful at magic.

Then Idril has the gift of foresight, and she seems to be more down to earth (down to Arda?) than her close relatives.

Is the Vanyar influence making Idril and Finarfin's children more spiritual, kind of closer to the Valar and Iluvatar?

Am I making any sense?

It should be noted that Galadriel's hair was said to be both gold and silver as though it were the blending of the light of the Two Trees, so she seems to have inherited very little from her Nolder ancestry. Mostly her pride (her one flaw, ironically).

 

[Ricardo]

It should be noted that Galadriel's hair was said to be both gold and silver as though it were the blending of the light of the Two Trees, so she seems to have inherited very little from her Nolder ancestry. Mostly her pride (her one flaw, ironically).

Yes, she inherited the blonde hair of the Vanyar, combined with the starlike hair of the Teleri, the pride of the Noldor and the magic of the Vanyar.

She also is related to water, that could be her Teleri legacy