What change in the movies ticks you off the most?

[xgothgrrl]

Also...Everyone seems to be dumping their "Issues" with the flim on PJ's back and taking delight in vilfing him personally Ie: Bastard...he Raped the book. I will admit that he is the director, but come one, he's not the only one who played a part...there were prob. other forces at work...upper management breathing down his neck for example, not to mention that the job of bringing a char. to life is the duty of the actor chosen to play that actor. I dont hear anyone in here calling Ian McKellen or Cate Blanchett or Elijah Wood a right bloody bastard for the way in which they chose to portray their respective char. And they in truth had far more to do with the end result on screen than the Director I will promise you. I still say that every great literary fiqure is multi dimensional and as such Actors may chose to emphasis a different aspect of that char when protraying them. People have been doing that with Shakespear for years....and if it's good enough for the greats such as Macbeth, Hamlet, Othello or Shylock...well why not Gandalf the Grey or Legolas the Hottie elf.

Love Always
xgothgrrl

 

[xgothgrrl]

aragil


Too Right, Thanks love.

 

[Thariel]

I would like to add to the discussion about PJ having Saruman's Uruk-Hai being spawned from caccoons. This is highly possible because remember that the Uruk-Hai were bred from Man and Orc so they could walk in the day. I doubt Tolkien would of been as crude as to of have Saruman force Orcs to mate (or rape) human females to make the new breed. I would of suspected that they were created through dark magic of perversion and some flesh-experiments. Thus the existance of the pods.

 

[Greenleaf]

The books are awesome no debating that.
The movie was really really good. It was the best book-to-screen I have ever seen. No movie can ever be as good as the book. I think that PJ did a fantastic job at portraying the feel of FOTR. It made sense to non-Tolkien fans and satisfied most hard core JRRT buffs. Yeah there were some changes, but all things considered it was really good. From a technical side the movie had to make money and it wasn’t going to do that if PJ put page to screen.

 

[Eomer Dinmention]

One thing i realy hate


was that they didn't show how Merry and Pippin knew about the ring they missed out of the Brandybuck bit


and one thing was that if gandalf got on the eagle when he was trapped in Orthanc he didn't have is staff then it shows him in the Mines of Moria that he does so how the hell did he get his staff back

 

[xgothgrrl]

King Eormer

Hey Mate, To answer you question about the staff and how Gandalf gets it back. It is a common occurence in flim...there is a name for it, but I can't for the life of me remember what it is. There are people who are hired to watch movies before they are released to look for inconsistencies in the flim, but some do escape them. It's an editing mistake nothing more...you see them all the time if you look closely enough. For example...two people are sitting at a table talking over dinner, on the table is a vase with a pink rose. The camera pans away, then pans back...lo and behold the rose is now red...or pink and white or even a tulip. Keep in mind that every scene in a movie is shot several times...in one shot Gandalf had his staff...in the second the actor may have laid it aside and forgot it. So when the edit together the good shots...in one frame Gandalf is weilding his staff...the next shot you see...he has made it vanish.

Not a plot issue...just routine editing I'm afraid

Love Always
xgothgrrl

 

[Moriarty]

Maybe Saruman took the staff back up the tower with him when he went back up to finally beat the crap out of Gandalf just before Gandalf takes a dive off the edge of the tower on to the eagles back! Two sticks better than one sort of thing.
Maybe Gandalf quickly whittled a new one one evening in Rivendell to pass the time.
Haha !
Well I see what you mean .....I mean staffs don't just grow on trees do they .....err well .....err yes they do !!

 

[Moriarty]

Or Magic I expect ..... he is a wizard after all. Bet he never loses socks and keys either!

 

[aragil]

Actually, ReadWryt posted on a very plausible scene that might have been edited out. I only remember the post because it contained the unforgetable phrase 'Old Fart', applied by Sauron to Gandalf. I encourage you to look for it (the post), as it made for some funny reading.

 

[Moriarty]

Another thought : why are dwarfs so often shown as basically being Welsh huh! Ok so there is the mining connection but it happens a lot!

 

[xgothgrrl]

aragil,

Hey if you started a new thread on my question above...how the heck do I find it? I would really be interested in seeing people's replys. I'm a theater major and the "Craft" or "Method" is sacrosant to me so I have to be prepared to come to the actor's defense...and I just wanted an excuse to use the term "Method" which I've not done since Universty.

Love Always
xgothgrrl

 

[ReadWryt]

Harad,

I suppose I'm WAY too picky about the use of the word "Animated" is all. I grew up learning that when one sat down and drew a series of poses of a character and then shot them, most often two frames for each drawing at 24 FPS, then that was animation. I guess it may just be anality on my part, and I'm not being sarcastic here, that makes me frown on the idea that filming an entire movie and then drawing over the actors being called "Animation". In other words, ignore my previous posts, I was being overly picky. Sorry.

 

[ReadWryt]

Does anyone else find it refreshing and extremely adorable that X.G. signs off "Love Always xgothgrrl".

 

[xgothgrrl]

Drawf's being Welsh?? Why did you have to ask that...I had a friend once who had simliar idea's he compared the various "supernatural" races to different nationalities as well.

Lets see...he told me that the elves were (his word's not mine) Stiff arse Brits...Proper Polite and in their own minds better than everyone else.

Drawfs were Aussies...allways ready for a rough and tumble fight and quite sure of themselves ie: that's my feeling on it and damn if anyone's gonna say different...which I kinda do resemble

and Hobbits...they are Irish...Lovers of home & hearth, enjoying nothing more than a satifying meal, a nice pipe by a blazing fire, a merry tune and a good pint...after all they know what's really important in life.

Hope that does'nt offend anyone...not meant to, but the question reminded me of it...and its good for a laugh or two.

Love Always
xgothgrrl

 

[Moriarty]

xgothgrrl,

Actually you have a very good point ........ but not only with reference to the actors interpretation.... Shakespeare is often produced in a modern manner. I seen a couple of the plays done on motorbikes at Stratford myself and they were none the worse for it. ( that is an example of changing the visual spectacle without changing the language of the play ) but there are plenty of examples where both are changed - Hell look at West Side Story ( I'm sure you all know it's Romeo & Juliet ) and many other examples of updated classical or Shakespearean plays.

 

[Moriarty]

Nooooo..... you're quite wrong there Xgothgrrl.......

Dwarf are generally shown as being Welsh even down to the accents they always have. Who plays the dwarf in FOTR ....... a Welshman.
And what do you mean about Brits thinking they are better in their own minds.... of course we are haha!!

Actually Elves always seem portrayed as basically Gay.

Likewise hope no-one gets offended ..... just what I have noticed in many movies and books.

 

[xgothgrrl]

Moriarty(Better than Holmes anyday)

Point taken...so in that case can we add stand offish as well, as John Ryes-Davis was the only member of the Fellowship who did not get a tattoo to celebrate his participation in the flim all the other 8 actors did.

Just some useless trivia for you...

Love Always
xgothgrrl

p.s. Legolas Gay...Say it aint so.

 

[Moriarty]

It ain't so!

Haha .... Actually I was going to make an exception of Legolas.

I was pleased that PJ had managed to show his character without making him appear a poof! ( can I say that !).

Hmm Did Liv happen to get one too ? and if so where ?

 

[xgothgrrl]

who you calling??

ReadWryt,

Why thank you. I have to say that I have been called many things in my time, which I would'nt ever repeat in proper company, but adorable...never. That was very sweet. Thanks.

Love Always
xgothgrrl

 

[xgothgrrl]

Moriarty,

last post for me tonight, but I could'nt resist. Yes I'm very glad they did'nt make Legolas look "girlie" (that's prob more polite)
but what I'm most happy about concerning legolas who is as I recall-and I could be wrong here- a Wood elf from Mirkwood,is that unlike the animated movie...he was not GREEN. Just imagine if you dare

Hiiii Hooo every one legolas the frog here with a muppet news flash.

*Shudder*

Love Always
xgothgrrl