What happened to 🧝Arwen and Aragorn after they died?

[ElynAltariel]

I know from the book, that Elves come after death into Mandos Halls, but what happened with humans like Aragorn after death, where will they come?
When i read the book and watch the movie, i always thought about, "Is there a reuniting after death possible for Arwen and Aragorn.
In the attachments at the end of the Lord of the rings book is written, that Arwen cant go to Valinor after Aragorns death, because there was no ship, that can bring her to there.
Then she go to the empty Lothlorien to die there. Will she come after death then into Mandos Halls like other elves?
And is it possible, that Arwen and Aragorn will be united somewhere after Mandos Halls?

 

[Tar-Elenion]

Aragorn (and all Men) are not bound to the World (creation) and when they die, their spirits go to Mandos and then (after a time) 'seek elsewhither' (leave the World).
Arwen is not an Elf, she is one of the half-elven who chose the fate of Men. She can not go to Valinor because no ship will bear her there. She had already, irrevocably, chosen her fate. When she died, her spirit too sought elsewhither.

Presumably their spirits are re-united after death.

 

[ElynAltariel]

Aragorn (and all Men) are not bound to the World (creation) and when they die, their spirits go to Mandos and then (after a time) 'seek elsewhither' (leave the World).
Arwen is not an Elf, she is one of the half-elven who chose the fate of Men. She can not go to Valinor because no ship will bear her there. She had already, irrevocably, chosen her fate. When she died, her spirit too sought elsewhither.

Presumably their spirits are re-united after death.

Thank you for your answer. I really hope, that their spirits was getting re-united after death....
I remember, that Arwen hat given her place on the ship to Frodo, that was the reason, why Frodo could go to Valinor with Gandalf, Bilbo and the elves.

 

[Ent]

their spirits go to Mandos and then (after a time) 'seek elsewhither' (leave the World)

Tar-Elenion, do you have a reference citation for this? the question gets asked periodicallly here and there and I've been looking for a citation from the Legendarium or Canon to support what happens to the spirits of Men.

Thanks much.

 

[Ent]

Arwen hat given her place on the ship to Frodo, that was the reason, why Frodo could go to Valinor with Gandalf,

ElynAltariel, do you have a location citation for this information from the Legendarium or Canon for 'the reason Frodo could go to Valinor" ? There are differences of opinion here and I'm seeking a written/verifiable solution.

Thanks very much.

 

[ElynAltariel]

ElynAltariel, do you have a location citation for this information from the Legendarium or Canon for 'the reason Frodo could go to Valinor" ? There are differences of opinion here and I'm seeking a written/verifiable solution.

Thanks very much.

There was a scene in the book, short after the marriage of Aragorn and Arwen, when Arwen say to Frodo, in Minas Tirith, that he can have her place on the ship.

 

[Ent]

hort after the marriage of Aragorn and Arwen

Thanks I'll look at the detail here again in a moment or three.

 

[Tar-Elenion]

Tar-Elenion, do you have a reference citation for this? the question gets asked periodicallly here and there and I've been looking for a citation from the Legendarium or Canon to support what happens to the spirits of Men.

"In this account, only Elros was granted a peculiar longevity, and it is said here that he and his brother Elrond were not differently endowed in the physical potential of life, but that since Elros elected to remain among the kindred of Men he retained the chief characteristic of Men as opposed to the Quendi: the ‘seeking elsewhither’, as the Eldar called it, the ‘weariness’ or desire to depart from the world."
UT, Line of Elros, note 1 referring to the following account:
"...but since Elros elected to remain among the kindred of Men, he retained the chief human characteristic as compared with the Quendi: the “seeking elsewhither”, as the Eldar called it, the “weariness” or desire to depart from the World. "
NoMe, Lives of the Númenóreans

"But what of that Man's fëa? Its nature and ‘doom’ could not be changed, neither by the health of Aman nor by the will of Manwë himself. Yet it is (as the Eldar hold) its nature and doom under the will of Eru that it should not endure Arda for long, but should depart and go elsewhither, returning maybe direct to Eru for another fate or purpose that is beyond the knowledge or guess of the Eldar."
MR, MT, Text XI Aman, Aman and Mortal Men

 

[Tar-Elenion]

Thanks I'll look at the detail here again in a moment or three.

Also in Letter 153:
"and so certain 'mortals', who have played some great part in Elvish affairs, may pass with the Elves to Elvenhome. Thus Frodo (by the express gift of Arwen) and Bilbo, and eventually Sam (as adumbrated by Frodo); and as a unique exception Gimli the Dwarf, as friend of Legolas and 'servant' of Galadriel."

 

[Ent]

@Tar-Elenion
Thank you SO much for these citations. Very useful.

 

[Ent]

short after the marriage of Aragorn and Arwen

Thanks. I did take a peek and found this 'source'. Coupled with @Tar-Elenion's letter citation sufficient details are at hand for me now.