What is 👁️Sauron? [Merged]

[siptfire7]

Sauron's Race

What race is Sauron from?

 

[Tar-Ancalime]

Tar wonders if she should answer this question....

he was a maiar

 

[Isenho]

dang sipt! how many threads did you post just then!

 

[Ithrynluin]

Maiar are angelic beings, whose spirit cannot be killed (they are immortal). Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, and the Balrog are other Maiar.

 

[BlackCaptain]

Yup. Sauron is a spirit, who has physical form. These are called Maiar. THHere are good Maiar, and bad Maiar. sauron is bad

 

[kohaku]

Sauron came to middle earth in the first age, but he fell to evil and became a servant of Morgoth. He remained in middle-earth after Morgoth was banished.

 

[Lantarion]

Well, technically Sauron had already been in the service of Melkor a long time before he even thought of establishing realms in the lands east of the Ered Lindon himself.. But yeah.

PS:
Plural: Maiar
Singular: Maia

 

[siptfire7]

Who are Melkor and Morgoth?

 

[FoolOfATook]

Melkor and Morgoth are the same. He is sort of Middle-earth's version of Lucifer- a fallen Valar who becomes the Dark Lord of Middle-earth.

 

[BlackCaptain]

Theres like, 20 Valar. 1 is bad. Melkor is the bad one. He was re-named Morgoth by the Elves. All of the bad in ME, is origonaly Melkor's fault, and his malice spread to Balrogs, Dragons, Spiders, Sauron, and other things of a less un-savory nature.

 

[FoolOfATook]

There are 15 Valar, including Melkor.

 

[Inderjit S]

Originally posted by kohaku
Sauron came to middle earth in the first age, but he fell to evil and became a servant of Morgoth. He remained in middle-earth after Morgoth was banished.

Sauron had never left, M-E, until he went to Numenor. He was a spy of Melkor in Almaren, then after the destruction of the lamps, he ruled in Melkor's western fortress-Angband, escaped from the Valar when they came up against Melkor and he took part in the War of the Jewels. He also made a ring some ring or another. Suppposedly there is some book about it....

 

[Bailey Baggins]

you could have simplified the answer to the question by merely saying that Sauron was a Balrog!

 

[Ithrynluin]

Originally posted by Bailey Baggins
you could have simplified the answer to the question by merely saying that Sauron was a Balrog!

I hope you're not serious...

 

[FoolOfATook]

you could have simplified the answer to the question by merely saying that Sauron was a Balrog!

Ummm, that actually wouldn't have simplified anything. Sauron wasn't a Balrog. He was a Maia, and Balrogs were Maiar, but Sauron wasn't a Balrog.

 

[Bailey Baggins]

"Dreadful among these spirits were the valaraukar, the scourges of fire that in Middle-earth were called Balrogs, demons of terror.
Among those of his servants that have names the greatest was that spirit whom the Eldar called Sauron, or Gorthaur the cruel. In his beginning he was of the Maiar of Aule..."

My mistake, blending paragraphs.

 

[e.Blackstar]

Melkor/Morgoth thing

Morgoth means somthing to the effect of "Great Enemy of the World" or somthin' like that

the Valar renamed Melkor when he got evil

 

[FoolOfATook]

the Valar renamed Melkor when he got evil

Actually, Feanor named him that, after the rape of the Silmarils. It means "Black Enemy".

 

[Frodorocks]

Wow, Balrogs are Mariar? You learn something new every day. I should really do more than just skim through The Sil.

 

[christopher]

what's is even more interesting to know, is that Mithrandir, Tom and Sauron were probably brothers in Eru's mind.