What is 👁️Sauron? [Merged]

[FoolOfATook]

what's is even more interesting to know, is that Mithrandir, Tom and Sauron were probably brothers in Eru's mind.

Obviously, we don't know for sure whether or not this is true, especially since there is absolutely no proof that Bombadil is a Maia.

 

[christopher]

You are absolutely right Took, yet the power of Tom over the Ring could probably only be explained by the fact that Tom is "a Maia gone native" as come critics have described him, but you are right, there is no proof. Anyway, discussing Tom is a something for another theat perhaps.

 

[Elendil01]

sauron is a dark elf, a lieutenet in Morgoth's army.(Morgoth was the 1st dark lord.

 

[christopher]

I'm sorry Elendil, but I beg to differ. Sauron was not a dark Elf (if I am not mistaken, Eol was one and I don't think they were related). Sauron was a Maia in the service of Aule, and was later seduced by Melkor/Morgoth and stayed with his master until Melkor was sent into the void. Then Sauron went to the world of men to try and corrupt them. In Numenor he dwelt among men in a time they weren't (except those at the Western end of the Island) very fond of elves, to say the least. He wasn't an elf, sorry.

 

[The_Swordmaster]

What is Sauron?

What exactly is Sauron? Is he Immortal or a mortal being? I do dout he is mortal. Was he once an elf or some other creature, that was taken by the dark powers or what?

 

[Celebthôl]

he is a Maiar, they are kind of like Angels, he was corrupted by Morgoth (who is sort of like the Devil) he is more powerful than an Elve but not as powerful as a God (or Valar)

Thôl

 

[Feanorian]

He is the same species as Gandalf, as celeb said he is a Maiar, they were the helpers of the Valar, created before the world itself, they cannot die and are linked to the world until its end, if you would like some more info about Sauron and his downfall check out the this debate, my debate it just recently ended in the Guild of Scholars guild.

 

[Jesse]

May I suggest the thread entitled "Sauron's Race" located on the bottom of the Halls of Fire page....??

 

[olorin the maia]

In addition to the above, read the Silmarillion for further info on Sauron Gorthaur.

 

[BlackCaptain]

Gorthaur isn't his last name, Olorin. It's another title given to him when he was fair-appearing.

 

[Gwindor]

Feanorian, I don't think the Maiar are bound to the world as the Elves are (which doesn't make them really immortal). Instead they exist without the world and wouldn't perish when Arda is unmade.

 

[Ithrynluin]

Feanorian, I don't think the Maiar are bound to the world as the Elves are (which doesn't make them really immortal). Instead they exist without the world and wouldn't perish when Arda is unmade.

Actually, the Ainur ARE bound to the world in a similar way as the Elves. They are "doomed" to reside within it till the very end. Check the Silmarillion.

Gorthaur isn't his last name, Olorin. It's another title given to him when he was fair-appearing.

Gorthaur means "dreadful/horrible abomination" according to the Silmarillion index. You must be thinking of Annatar.

 

[Feanorian]

Well yes they are as was pointed out above this post their life sources are linked to the world until it's end that was the condition they had to agree to in order to enter the world when Eru originally allowed them to leave the void.


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