What prompted 🧙Gandalf to seek an audience with Tom Bombadil?

d4rk3lf · Jun 27, 2022

Maybe they want to discuss upcoming Dagor Dagorath?

Rivendell_librarian · Jun 27, 2022

Hmm - not "long talks" are they! (19,20)

Elbereth Vala Varda · Jun 27, 2022

Rivendell_librarian said:
Hmm - not "long talks" are they! (19,20)

Tis' true. Not long talks. I do wonder what they might have spoken of.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Jul 6, 2022

Just in: newly discovered video -- presumably recorded by Tom -- of Gandalf's side of the conversation!

Gandalf had expressed "weariness" on several occasions. Now we know why.

Elbereth Vala Varda · Jul 6, 2022

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
Just in: newly discovered video -- presumably recorded by Tom -- of Gandalf's side of the conversation!

Gandalf had expressed "weariness" on several occasions. Now we know why.

Whoa... Did they talk this indirectly and vaguely?

d4rk3lf · Jul 6, 2022

Well, I am a little bit disappointed in Tolkien now.
I though Tom was a character of his imagination, and now I see that man really exist.

Elbereth Vala Varda · Jul 6, 2022

d4rk3lf said:
Well, I am a little bit disappointed in Tolkien now.
I though Tom was a character of his imagination, and now I see that man really exist.

Oh cheer up, that man wasn't singing "Ring-a-ding-a-dillo" and wearing all yellow.. I think he is just pretending.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Jul 6, 2022

That's Gandalf's side. No video of Tom yet. 😄

Radaghast · Jul 6, 2022

Looks kind of like an amalgam. Hence the profound confusion.

Elbereth Vala Varda · Jul 6, 2022

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
That's Gandalf's side. No video of Tom yet. 😄

I understand now... Hmm.. Where did Gandalf's hat and cloak go, and his staff?

Squint-eyed Southerner · Jul 6, 2022

Based on the video evidence, I'm guessing he just forgot them somewhere.

Elbereth Vala Varda · Jul 6, 2022

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
Based on the video evidence, I'm guessing he just forgot them somewhere.

Mm, I see. So this is happening while the Hobbits were saving The Shire.

If this is how the conversation went, there is no surprise that Gandalf left Middle-Earth.

Squint-eyed Southerner · Jul 6, 2022

Or why Tom didn't.

Elbereth Vala Varda · Jul 6, 2022

Squint-eyed Southerner said:
Or why Tom didn't.
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I will say that while Tom seems a rather ridiculous fellow in some of his words, his love for Goldberry and adventurous spirit are certainly entertaining, and even inspiring.

Erestor Arcamen · Jul 6, 2022

Not sure of Gandalf and Tom's conversation but found out why he wasn't in the movie...

Ent · Jul 6, 2022

Elbereth Vala Varda said:
Tis' true. Not long talks. I do wonder what they might have spoken of.

Umnhhh... according to Gandalf, they were to be the longest talk of all his time.

‘But if you would know, I am turning aside soon. I am going to have a long talk with Bombadil: such a talk as I have not had in all my time. He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling. But my rolling days are ending, and now we shall have much to say to one another.’
Tolkien, J.R.R.. The Lord of the Rings: One Volume (p. 996). HMH Books. Kindle Edition.

But considering Gandalf, that may not be saying much. Rather succinct, he tended to be..!!

Elbereth Vala Varda · Jul 6, 2022

Well-aged Enting said:
Umnhhh... according to Gandalf, they were to be the longest talk of all his time.

‘But if you would know, I am turning aside soon. I am going to have a long talk with Bombadil: such a talk as I have not had in all my time. He is a moss-gatherer, and I have been a stone doomed to rolling. But my rolling days are ending, and now we shall have much to say to one another.’
Tolkien, J.R.R.. The Lord of the Rings: One Volume (p. 996). HMH Books. Kindle Edition.

But considering Gandalf, that may not be saying much. Rather succinct, he tended to be..!!

You must understand my context, @Well-aged Enting !

I was replying with agreement to one who stated that the talks previous messages speculated were not long, and therefore could not have been accurate guesses..

I am fully aware it shall be a long talk, and I very often question myself whether it may have taken the whole time of The Scouring of The Shire, and indeed also peaceful time, straight up to the Ring-bearers leaving Middle - Earth. Indeed, I would never believe that a short conversation would be a suitable assumption for the talk between Old Tom and Gandalf, yet again, the word long brings us to a matter of opinions.

What is considered a "long talk" in Gandalf's eyes?

What prompted 🧙Gandalf to seek an audience with Tom Bombadil?

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