Why Rings of Powers Fight Scenes Are Boring

Olorgando said:

Seems to be a general trend of the 21st century. One thing we should never, ever say is "Things can't get any worse than this!" Because in innumerable fields of human actions (or inactivity), hoo boy, have they ever gotten worse.
Remember that 2002-2004 original SARS "outbreak"? Over 8,000 infections and 774 deaths reported - world-wide total.
Fast-forward to 2019 ff. Just a bit below 662 million infections and 6.9 million deaths reported. Every single district in Bavaria (there are 96) reported more than twice as many infections as the world-wide totals of 2002-2004 (up to over 700 K for the city of Munich). And the third-largest city Augsburg (pop. ca. 300 K) has had about the same death toll, with Nuremberg (pop. ca. 510 K) nearly twice that, and Munich (pop. ca. 1,488 K) more than triple.

So I have a question to those who have viewed both RoP (so far) and PJ's LoTR trilogy: are we in the 2019 ff COVID-19 vs. 2002-2004 original SARS ballpark?
Just to be clear, I consider both to have aspects of contagious diseases, bred in the Frankenstein labs of the recent "entertainment" industry ...

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ROP-S1 is more like ebola than SARS/COVID; it outright killed the Appendices and whatever it filched from Silmarillion. Although, I guess it could be considered a disease "engineered" by the Amazon lab, with the Covid-like ability to morph into another pathogen in Season 2.

Amon Rudh said:

Your original point seemed to try to enlighten me as to why you feel ROP is boring. That is a completely subjective point plus I dont find them boring. But you support my argument in saying that the premise of beauty being in the eye of the beholder as I very firmly believe it is. On that we have another dichotomy.
I recently watched the film Moonfall which as an astronomer I found ludicrous and completely far fetched. However as a cheesy spectacular film in the vein of Armageddon and Independence Day, I enjoyed it.
We don't all have to agree on things but I will always push against someone telling me what I should think or like or do. I think here we share common ground! 🙂

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Yes, well said.

Amon Rudh said:

We don't all have to agree on things but I will always push against someone telling me what I should think or like or do. I think here we share common ground! 🙂

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No question. But if I tell you I think something you like is garbage, I'm not telling you anything about what you should anything, I'm telling you about what I think or like. It's {choose perhaps expletive-laden insult of your choice} people who seem to be unable to make that simple distinction, as clearly evidenced by their reactions - the phrase best evidencing utter incomprehension is "are you calling me ...?" - has dome more to turn me into a Statler and Waldorf fan than anything else. Besides outright trolls, we've had too many even here on TTF who are incapable of dealing with any disagreement with their opinions.

Tolkien Forum of Complaining.

Wow, we're certainly a bit off track with the Thread. Of course the thread title itself is an Opinion, and shows up an issue with how we handle the written language.
Perhaps this is all about what Ent frequently says - it's not 'what we say'. It's 'how we say it.'
The Thread's title is of course difficult to begin with.

To say "Why the fight scenes are boring" is a declarative, as though it's truth for all, and is unfailingly going to set loose the "It's not boring" response.
To say "Why I find the fight scenes boring" is very different, clearly letting everyone know we're referring to our own take on things.

It would be even better to say "Do you find the fight scenes boring, like I do?" This opens a question, asking for discussion. It would be fine for the OPer to followup in the context with the 'why' he/she finds them boring. In which case no one is nearly as ruffled at being "told" what they are - boring - and feel like they are expected to agree.

The one makes a declarative statement, as an absolute 'truth'. It also tells people 'how they should think about it'... whether it's the intent of the poster to do so or not.

Humans just don't like being 'told' what to do or how they should think about something...and that's what this thread's title and much of its responses do. Others like to express their opinions in very flat, direct and untainted ways.

On both sides, the one approach - the blunt expression and the inevitable response are from the self - selfish.
The other is also from the self - but acknowledges and empathizes with others.

I know, I know... few want to hear they may be able to craft saying things differently, with better results. Nonetheless, to @Jimbo Baggins' point, there would be a lot less tension and a lot more achievement if it were to happen.