Nardor

[Spirit of Fire]

He won't answer, he was banned for bad behavior so consider Nardor and any of his other tripe as open source 😁

I only hope that anything I contribute will live up to the lofty expectations of this epic.

 

[Elthir]

I (added) invented Nardor the Dragon.

Just sayin 🐉

 

[Spirit of Fire]

I (added) invented Nardor the Dragon.

Just sayin 🐉

Huh? The author is clearly stated, and I don't approve of plagiarism. Please be respectful of community guidelines

 

[Elthir]

But Nardor the dragon lives in Nardor.

I also invented the Nardorian Chronicles . . . but they're about Nardor of course.

 

[Spirit of Fire]

But Nardor the dragon lives in Nardor.

I also invented the Nardorian Chronicles . . . but they're about Nardor of course.

Can I read these works of plagiarism anywhere?

 

[Elthir]

I think they are in either the Nardor thread (this one), or maybe in the Was Smaug in the War of Wrath thread (considering dragons), but wherever they are, if I recall correctly, they were only quick references to things in the already invented Nardor.

🐾

 

[Spirit of Fire]

I read the preceding posts, but the only serious literature I found was the original in this thread. Please respect the community guidelines

 

[Elthir]

I read the preceding posts, but the only serious literature I found was the original in this thread. Please respect the community guidelines

Well, I didn't say I had invented serious literature anywhere, only that I had invented these things, ideas if you will, as possible contributions to Nardor. In light of . . .

I only hope that anything I contribute will live up to the lofty expectations of this epic.

 

[Spirit of Fire]

I will always pay homage to the original author, which I feel you are loath to do. For someone who disparages a written work (given what I've read in the threads), you seem oddly intent on claiming credit for it.

 

[Elthir]

Clarification: contributions to, not credit for.

I do not want credit for creating the Nardor epic.

 

[Spirit of Fire]

Then why would you be so adamant about stating that you created it?

I use "credit" to denote authorship, not necessarily merit.

 

[Elthir]

I said invented two things . . . not created the epic.

And I don't want credit for the epic regarding authorship.

 

[Spirit of Fire]

I said invented two things . . . not created the epic.

Semantics. So you "invented" a work of mockery? Once again, I don't think this behaviour falls within the community guidelines

 

[Elthir]

Admittedly I sometimes joke in a mocking way, so I apologize to Bard if he took it ill (too late I know, but if he ever comes back and looks in here). I note also my far more recent conversations with Norrinrad with respect to my Khamul references, although Norrin seemed to take it as intended, and we are on friendly terms as far as I know.

Bard was banned and kept coming back, and (in my opinion) could have been nicer to folks at times, although that doesn't give me the right to mock his Nardor epic, so again, apologies Bard, wherever you are these days.

🐾

 

[Elthir]

Semantics. So you "invented" a work of mockery?

By the way, "work" of mockery? I believe it had been clear enough what I "invented" before you posted this. And in case it isn't crystal yet, I don't want any credit, in any measure, for the Nardor epic.

No offense to you . . . or again, Bard

 

[Spirit of Fire]

Okay cool. I just hope I joined a friendly, fair, and respectful community here. I've been on other forums where the atmosphere can be confrontational and bully-like.

By the way, "work" of mockery? If you want to bring up semantics, I believe it had been clear enough what I "invented" before you posted this.

I merely was pointing out what you wrote was mocking the author. Once again you are playing semantics.

 

[Elthir]

Well, you could have chosen "ideas that mocked" instead of "work" for example, which, at least
in my opinion, seemed to link back to your earlier statement of plagiarism -- again, possibly suggesting that I had written some, as you say, "serious literature" about Nardor somewhere.

So, that's why I pointed it out. For myself, I'm not into fan fiction in general, but I'm certainly not against it.

 

[Erestor Arcamen]

EA, I have the impression that E(A) is not the only one who has been deleting posts here (he only being able to delete his own). I may be wrong, but I have the feeling that there may be gaps - which can really make a thread confusing … 🤯

He definitely had posts deleted in his time so there may be gaps. I wasn't a mod during the time he was here so if there were posts in this thread that were permanently deleted, I can't see them. There were several other threads he started and then would not merely debate other members but attack them personally for not agreeing with him and having differing opinions. And he would make posts with incorrect information that went against Tolkien canon and when corrected, again, attack other members. So he was a toxic member who didn't fit in with the environment that TTF tried to provide for members.

@Spirit of Fire, Elthir was clearly joking and not breaking any "community guidelines." This "epic" on Nardor by Bard was never more really than a theory he had that he began to write some fanfiction for but never finished (and was never taken seriously) for the above reasons of being banned. It looks like he was also on another forum and unless he was banned there too, you could write to him and see if he minds you continuing his story or to see if he wrote more if you're worried about plagiarism.

 

[Spirit of Fire]

Well, you could have chosen "ideas that mocked" instead of "work" for example, which, at least
in my opinion, seemed to link back to your earlier statement of plagiarism; again, possibly suggesting that I had written some, as you say, "serious literature" about Nardor somewhere.

So, that's why I pointed it out. For myself, I'm not into fan fiction in general, but I'm certainly not against it.

I was merely talking about the claims relating to Nardor and being the authority on it. If serious, is fraud. If mocking, is I think unnecessarily spiteful, given there appears to be a tenuous relationship with the true author.

It looks like he was also on another forum and unless he was banned there too, you could write to him and see if he minds you continuing his story or to see if he wrote more if you're worried about plagiarism.

May I ask which forum? I won't speak to posts which go against Tolkien canon (since I haven't seen any that do - fan fiction is just a bit of fun, not really an affront to canon), but it appears a lot of work has gone into this epic here which would be unfair to disrespect.

 

[Elthir]

Thanks EA.

Good to hear that I (seemingly) haven't annoyed everyone here! One of the reasons I sometimes delete a post is that it's off topic, and, if trying to be humorous, I'm not sure how it will come across in this medium.

I try to delete quickly before anyone responds to whatever it is, as I realize deleting can cause confusion, but Gando was too quick in the Bombadil/enigma thread for example. That said . . .

. . . I'll try to improve on second guessing my posts, whether personal information I decide not to share, of fears of my sense of humor going unintentionally awry! Or whatever!