Did gil-galad join battles of beleriand?

[Turin_Turambar]

Gil-galad was born in Eldamar during the years of the trees. He was not a child during the Noldor exile. But he was relatively young. Do you think gil-galad participated in battles such as dagor aglareb, dagor bragollach, nirnaeth arnoediad, fall of falas, war of wrath? I don't see any reason why he wouldn't participate. I think it's perfectly reasonable that he joined.

 

[Tar-Elenion]

If

Gil-galad was born in Eldamar during the years of the trees.

If Gil-galad's "...mother was a Sindarin lady of the North" or "...her own folk in Eglorest..." (i.e. of Cirdan's people), how could he have been born in Eldamar?

 

[Turin_Turambar]

If

If Gil-galad's "...mother was a Sindarin lady of the North" or "...her own folk in Eglorest..." (i.e. of Cirdan's people), how could he have been born in Eldamar?

Gil-galad

Ereinion Gil-galad, born Artanáro, was a Ñoldorin Elf and son to Orodreth.[note 1] He was the last Ñoldóran in Middle-earth, and bore many titles, including High King of the Elves of the West, King of the Eldar, King of Lindon, Lord of the High Elves, and the Lord of Eriador. Gil-galad held the...

lotr.fandom.com

 

[Tar-Elenion]

Gil-galad

Ereinion Gil-galad, born Artanáro, was a Ñoldorin Elf and son to Orodreth.[note 1] He was the last Ñoldóran in Middle-earth, and bore many titles, including High King of the Elves of the West, King of the Eldar, King of Lindon, Lord of the High Elves, and the Lord of Eriador. Gil-galad held the...

lotr.fandom.com

I quoted Tolkien, not some 'fandom' site.
But per what you are quoting "son to Orodreth", Tolkien specifically says:
"His Sindarin name was Rodreth (altered to Orodreth because of his love of the mountains....... His children were Finduilas and Artanáro = Rodnor later called Gil-galad. (Their mother was a Sindarin lady of the North. She called her son Gil-galad.)"
PoMe, SoF

So, again, how could Gil-galad have been born in Eldamar?

 

[Turin_Turambar]

I quoted Tolkien, not some 'fandom' site.
But per what you are quoting "son to Orodreth", Tolkien specifically says:
"His Sindarin name was Rodreth (altered to Orodreth because of his love of the mountains....... His children were Finduilas and Artanáro = Rodnor later called Gil-galad. (Their mother was a Sindarin lady of the North. She called her son Gil-galad.)"
PoMe, SoF

So, again, how could Gil-galad have been born in Eldamar?

In Valinor the Teleri Elves lived too. Remember Kinslaying at Alqualondë, where Feanor took the ships by force.

 

[Tar-Elenion]

In Valinor the Teleri Elves lived too. Remember Kinslaying at Alqualondë, where Feanor took the ships by force.

The wife of Orodreth and mother of Gil-galad was a "Sindarin lady of the North".
Not a Telerin/Falmarin lady of Alqualonde.

As you are having some difficulty answering, the answer is: Gil-galad could not be born in Eldamar.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

@Teleporno Celeborn
As all informations from these Fandom Wikis can always be edited by anyone who registers in their sites,I wouldn't rely on them to be a %100 true

 

[Turin_Turambar]

The wife of Orodreth and mother of Gil-galad was a "Sindarin lady of the North".
Not a Telerin/Falmarin lady of Alqualonde.

As you are having some difficulty answering, the answer is: Gil-galad could not be born in Eldamar.

but most sources say that gil-galad was born in the eldamar. According to the majority of sources, gil-galad was born in Eldamar. It is written in already another version that gil-galad's mother is a sindar elf of the north. I personally think according to the majority of sources, gil-galad was born in eldamar.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

but most sources say that gil-galad was born in the eldamar. According to the majority of sources, gil-galad was born in Eldamar. It is written in already another version that gil-galad's mother is a sindar elf of the north. I personally think according to the majority of sources, gil-galad was born in eldamar.

Sindar elves are different from their Valinorian kin,the Teleri elves and they spoke different languages.
And I'm not by any means an expert here but I suggest if you want to get true information about Tolkien's works you should start reading his books.
as I said on my post above wiki sites are not accurate and I personally have edited one of its post once.
and honestly it's the first time I've seen anyone saying Gil-Galad was born in Eldamar.

 

[Turin_Turambar]

Sindar elves are different from their Valinorian kin,the Teleri elves and they spoke different languages.
And I'm not by any means an expert here but I suggest if you want to get true information about Tolkien's works you should start reading his books.
as I said on my post above wiki sites are not accurate and I personally have edited one of its post once.
and honestly it's the first time I've seen anyone saying Gil-Galad was born in Eldamar.

Year of the Trees 1481

Year of the Trees 1481 (abbreviated to Y.T. 1481) is the 1481st year of the Trees in the First Age of Arda. Year of the Trees 1481 was also V.Y. 4981 in Valian Years...

tolkiengateway.net

Please review the article above.
Also, I just moved to the USA. I'm busy right now because I'm doing HEMA and SCA as I planned before I came to the USA, and I'm dueling in HEMA and armored combat league. I haven't had time to read the middle earth books yet. I'll start reading if my time gets lighter.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

I understand that life can be busy,I have not read them completely either.
But my point still stands the any of these articles can be wrong.

 

[Turin_Turambar]

I understand that life can be busy,I have not read them completely either.
But my point still stands the any of these articles can be wrong.

According to the tolkiengateway article I sent you, it is written in the book "The Nature of Middle-earth" that gil-galad was born in Eldamar.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

I think we're not understanding each other here so let's stop discussing that.
Let's say that Gil-Galad was born in Eldamar.
Since he was one of the exiles he was not allowed to fight in the war of wrath

 

[Turin_Turambar]

I think we're not understanding each other here so let's stop discussing that.
Let's say that Gil-Galad was born in Eldamar.
Since he was one of the exiles he was not allowed to fight in the war of wrath

I understand you. I'm putting the link because I already understand. If you paid attention, you said that internet wikis are not correct, and I put a link on which an internet wiki quotes a middle earth book. So whether internet wikis are correct or not, some sometimes quote books. It is not only written in wikis that gil-galad was born in the eldamar, he also writes in the book "the nature of middle earth". I mean, sometimes internet wikis can quote books.
Also, some of the Noldor exiles and some sindar had fought in the War of Wrath. Some prominent characters, such as Maglor, Maedhros, Cirdan, joined the war.

 

[Tar-Elenion]

but most sources say that gil-galad was born in the eldamar. According to the majority of sources, gil-galad was born in Eldamar
It is written in already another version that gil-galad's mother is a sindar elf of the north. I personally think according to the majority of sources, gil-galad was born in eldamar.

Most sources do not say he is born in Eldamar. There is one variant that has Gil-galad born in Eldamar. That variant is from about six years before Orodreth is Gil-galad's father. In other variants where Finrod is his father or Fingon is his father he is an "elvenchild" or a "young son") when he is sent to the Havens. (and in the Finrod variant his mother is noted as of the folk of Eglorest, i.e Cirdan's people). While in the variant which has him of unknown parentage born inYT 1481 notes him as 25 10 to 20 years into the the Second Age. Meaning he only reached 'maturity' in the last century of the First Age.
None of those sources indicate him as being of age to go off to war (which seems to be your intent with your question).
Now you have several options. He is the son of Finrod, with a Sindarin mother of Eglorest, and hence born in Beleriand and still an 'elvenchild' when sent away; or the "young son" of Fingon, with an unknown mother; or the son of Orodreth with a Sindarin mother (and hence born in Beleriand); or he is born in Eldamar, of unknown parentage, and still immature until the last century of First Age.
Alternatively, you can just make up your own version of Gil-galad (like your cited wiki seems to do), in which case he can be whatever age you want and fight in whatever battles you want.
So, what version of Gil-galad are you asking about? Your version or one of the variants Tolkien wrote about?


edit:
The Tolkien Gateway article you link to in response to @Aredhel Ar-Feiniel is incorrect. It is not the "probable birth date of Gilgalad, the son of Orodreth". As noted above, Gil-galad as the son of Orodreth is from ca. six years later and has a Sindarin lady of the North as his mother.

 

[Elthir]

Websites and whatnots are going to be adding stuff from the fairly recently published book
The Nature of Middle-Earth -- adding stuff in the form of interpretations, or even facts taken
from Tolkien's own hand -- but are they going to simply "muddle them in" -- possibly without context, or without certain "pesky details" (like when Tolkien wrote a given something) which,
often enough, do actually matter.

In any case, Tar-Elenion's information hails from a note dated August 1965, which ultimately is in accord with the conception that Gil-galad was the son of Arothir [Orodreth], who was the son of Angrod, which itself was [Christopher Tolkien] "my father's last word on the subject"
concerning Gil-galad's parentage.

And indeed, as Tar-E already noted, the 1965 note has Gil-galad being the son of a Sindarin lady of the North, and so, this is not in accord with Gil-galad being born in Aman.

Edit: Ahh! We posted at nearly the same time it seems, Tar-E. I didn't see your response until I posted!

 

[Tar-Elenion]

Websites and whatnots are going to be adding stuff from the fairly recently published book
The Nature of Middle-Earth -- adding stuff in the form of interpretations, or even facts taken
from Tolkien's own hand -- but are they going to simply "muddle them in" -- possibly without context, or without certain "pesky details" (like when Tolkien wrote a given something) which,
often enough, do actually matter.

These websites do seem to combine incompatible variants, without realizing or acknowledging it.

 

[Elthir]

These websites do seem to combine incompatible variants, without realizing or acknowledging it.

Indeed that can happen Tar-E. Some sites are trying to lay out variations under sections titled (something like) "Other versions of the legendarium" but as I know you agree, reading the actual Tolkienian texts is best of course.

In any case, you've nicely pointed out the muddle from the link above 👍