What races clashed in the ⚔️War of the Ring battles?

[Turin_Turambar]

BATTLES OF BELERIAND (First age wars)

Kinslaying at Alqualondë
noldor elves:100.000 teleri elves:300.000

First Battle
doriath elves:15.000 falas elves:8000 ossiriand elves:11.000 dwarves:12.000 morgoth's orcs:80.000

Dagor-nuin-Giliath
noldor elves:30.000 morgoth's orcs:60.000 balrogs:8

Battle of the Lammoth
noldor elves:40.000 morgoth's orcs:30.000

Dagor Aglareb
noldor elves:50.000 morgoth's orcs:70.000

Siege of Angband
noldor elves:35.000 morgoth's orcs:55.000

Battle of the Firth of Drengist
noldor elves:10.000 morgoth's orcs:25.000

Battle of the Gelion-Ascar Stockade
noldor elves:7000 men:9000 morgoth's orcs:18.000

Dagor Bragollach
hithlum elves:45.000 grey-elves:10.000 men:13.000 nargothrond elves:4000 morgoth's orcs:90.000 balrogs:100 wargs:400 werewolves:300 vampires:100 one dragon

Battle of the Pass of Aglon
noldor elves:7000 morgoth's orcs:16.000

Fall of Tol Sirion
noldor elves:5300 morgoth's orcs:13.000

Second Assault on Hithlum
hithlum elves:12.000 falas elves:22.000 morgoth's orcs:30.000

Nirnaeth Arnoediad
hithlum elves:15.000 mithrim elves:1000 falas elves:5000 nargothrond elves:500 gondolin elves:10.000 maedhros elves:9000 men of bor:6000 men of ulfang:7500 green elves:2500 dwarves:15.000 men of dor-lomin:12.000 brethil men:2000 morgoth's orcs:100.000 balrogs:1000 dragons:200 trolls:3500 wargs:4500 werewolves:800 vampires:700

Fall of the Falas
falas elves:2500 morgoth's orcs:10.000

Sack of Bar-en-Danwedh
men and elves:7000 morgoth's orcs:14.000 wargs:600

Battle of the Crossings of the Taeglin
men and elves:5500 morgoth's orcs:13.000

Battle of Tumhalad
nargothrond elves:12.000 morgoth's orcs:28.000 trolls:300 wargs:900 one dragon

Sack of Nargothrond
nargothrond elves:500 morgoth's orcs:21.000 one dragon

Battle of the Thousand Caves
doriath elves:6500 dwarves:13.600

Battle of Sarn Athrad
doriath elves:8000 ents:100 dwarves:11.200

Second Kinslaying
noldor elves:7500 doriath elves:6000

Fall of Gondolin
gondolin elves:7500 morgoth's orcs:25.000 balrogs:150 dragons:50

Third Kinslaying
noldor elves:4300 sirion elves:9100

War of Wrath
noldor and vanyar elves:100.000 men:15.000 dwarves:17.000 ents:5000 eagles:1000 morgoth's orcs:500.000 trolls:8000 balrogs:3800 dragons:500 wargs:3500 werewolves:2000 vampires:1500

WAR OF THE RING (Third age wars)

Attack on the Woodland Realm
mirkwood elves:14.000 sauron's orcs:18.500

Sauron's assault on Osgiliath
gondor men:17.500 sauron's orcs:22.000

First Battle of the Fords of Isen
rohan men:9000 uruk-hai:5000 wargs:400

Ambush of the Rohirrim
rohan men:200 uruk-hai and orcs:650

Second Battle of the Fords of Isen
rohan men:5400 uruk-hai:5000 wargs:350

Ambush of the Wargs
rohan men:300 orcs:500 wargs:500

Battle of the Hornburg
rohan men:500 lothlorien elves:1000 uruk-hai:10.000 rohirrim:2000

Battle of Isengard
ents:150 orcs:4500

Battle of Ithilien
rangers of ithilien:600 haradrim men:2500 one mumakil

Battle of cair andros
gondor men:3000 sauron's orcs:9000

First Battle of Lórien
lothlorien elves:15.000 sauron's orcs:45.000 trolls:100 wargs:60 werewolves:30

Invasion of Eastern Rohan
ents:400 sauron's orcs:7500

Battle of Osgiliath
gondor men:8500 sauron's orcs:25.000 fellbeasts:70

Battle of Pelargir
army of dead:30.000 umbar pirates:28.000

Siege of Gondor & Battle of the Pelennor Fields
gondor men:13.000 rohirrim:6000 army of dead:30.000 sauron's orcs:200.000 trolls:1000 wargs:500 fellbeasts:200 haradrim men:18.000 mumakils:20

Battle of Cirith Ungol
shagrat orcs:300 minas morgul orcs:180

Battle of Dale
dwarves:20.000 men of dale:12.300 sauron's orcs:100.000 haradrim men:50.000 trolls:1200 mumakils:50

Battle Under the Trees
mirkwood elves:30.000 sauron's orcs:70.000 trolls:800 wargs:700

Second Battle of Lórien
lothlorien elves:14.100 sauron's orcs:40.000 trolls:80 wargs:45 werewolves:30

Ambush in Ithilien
gondor and rohan men:10.000 sauron's orcs:8500 haradrim men:11.000

Third Battle of Lórien
lothlorien elves:13.500 sauron's orcs:35.000 trolls:40 wargs:25 werewolves:10

Second battle of cair andros
gondor men:5000 sauron's orcs:7000

Battle of the Morannon
gondor and rohan men:8000 eagles:100 sauron's orcs:60.000 trolls:180 fellbeasts:200

Fall of Dol Guldur
lothlorien and mirkwood elves:26.000 sauron's orcs:50.000 trolls:350 mumakils:10

Battle of Bree
arnor men:3500 sauron's orcs:6300

Battle of Bywater
hobbits:300 ruffians:100

BATTLES OF BELERIAND RACES

Orcs
Trolls
Wargs
Werewolves
Vampires
Balrogs
Dragons
Spiders

Ents
Elves
Dwarves
Men
Eagles

WAR OF THE RING RACES

Orcs
Uruk-hais
Wargs
Werewolves
Trolls
Olog-hais
Fellbeasts
Mumakils

Ents
Elves
Dwarves
Men
Eagles
Hobbits

POPULATION OF BELERIAND

1.200.000 Elf
300.000 Dwarves
150.000 Men

POPULATION OF THIRD AGE MIDDLE EARTH

2.600.000 Men
400.000 Elf
200.000 Dwarves
100.000 Hobbits

BELERIAND KINGDOMS

ELVES KINGDOMS

Doriath
Gondolin
Nargothrond
Falas
Hithlum
Himlad
Thargelion
Ossiriand
Nevrast

MEN KINGDOMS

Brethil
Dor-lomin

DWARVES KINGDOMS

Nogrod
Belegost

THIRD AGE MIDDLE EARTH KINGDOMS

ELVES KINGDOMS

Lothlorien
Mirkwood
Lindon
Rivendell

MEN KINGDOMS

Gondor
Arnor
Rohan
Dale

DWARVES KINGDOMS

Erebor
Iron hills

Maps

 

[Glorfindel Goldtress]

Whoa, this is indeed most detailed! May I ask how you sourced all these numbers with certainty?

 

[Turin_Turambar]

Whoa, this is indeed most detailed! May I ask how you sourced all these numbers with certainty?

The numbers are not actually certainty, they are average. That is, they are more or less data. It is very difficult to obtain clear data. Especially if we are talking about Tolkien's legendarium. I created the numbers by collecting and quoting from some sites on the internet.

 

[Glorfindel Goldtress]

It is very difficult to obtain clear data.

I do not doubt it!

I created the numbers by collecting and quoting from some sites on the internet.

Indeed, we must take everything with a grain of salt. Still I appreciate your efforts collaborating it all.

 

[Momcilo]

There ware no elves from Lothlorien in battle of Helms Deep, you need to read books

 

[Hisoka Morrow]

You forget bunches of conflicts between Gondor and ME evil Men such as Wain-Rider Wars, and so on, my dear XD

 

[Ent]

So @Momcilo and @Hisoka Morrow . rather than just slamming what HAS been done (and demeaning the poster by telling him/her they 'need to read the books'), how about helping?

Comsider a different approach, like, oh: "I don't recall Elves bding in Helm's Deep. Should that be on the list?"
And maybe "here are some battles you missed, maybe some people would want to add to the list."

Gosh.. i'm thankful for what has been done.
I always remember my old Entish father saying 'if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all.'

But then... I come from a very different age, I suppose...

 

[Momcilo]

So @Momcilo and @Hisoka Morrow . rather than just slamming what HAS been done (and demeaning the poster by telling him/her they 'need to read the books'), how about helping?

Comsider a different approach, like, oh: "I don't recall Elves bding in Helm's Deep. Should that be on the list?"
And maybe "here are some battles you missed, maybe some people would want to add to the list."

Gosh.. i'm thankful for what has been done.
I always remember my old Entish father saying 'if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all.'

But then... I come from a very different age, I suppose...

Very wise of you

 

[Squint-eyed Southerner]

While I appreciate the effort involved, I've cautioned before about using websites, especially those that mix sources from books, films, video-games, and RPGs, without citation references. It can result in some strange mishmashes.

 

[Annatar]

I find the ambition and the work behind it very respectable, but I would ask for a source reference for each individual figure, otherwise it is all pure fantasy or subjective speculation. However, providing sources would at least give us a basis for discussion and other opinions, which would certainly enrich the topic.

 

[Turin_Turambar]

So @Momcilo and @Hisoka Morrow . rather than just slamming what HAS been done (and demeaning the poster by telling him/her they 'need to read the books'), how about helping?

Comsider a different approach, like, oh: "I don't recall Elves bding in Helm's Deep. Should that be on the list?"
And maybe "here are some battles you missed, maybe some people would want to add to the list."

Gosh.. i'm thankful for what has been done.
I always remember my old Entish father saying 'if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all.'

But then... I come from a very different age, I suppose...

Dear Ent, I think these friends did not use a bad tone. They just jokingly expressed their own opinions and what was wrong. Yes, of course, you are right too. But I was not offended by their messages. They are not messages with a bad tone. As an admin, I understand what you need to do. Although Even though you wanted to maintain the tone and etiquette in the forum, frankly, I did not find any offensive expressions in those messages. Still, I would like to thank you for continuing your duty and trying to maintain order in my position, as you do in everyone else's matter.

There ware no elves from Lothlorien in battle of Helms Deep, you need to read books

I have read the book. According to the book, of course there are not 1000 elves from Lothlorien. But there were in the movie. I took the movie as a basis.

You forget bunches of conflicts between Gondor and ME evil Men such as Wain-Rider Wars, and so on, my dear XD

The war you mentioned does not belong to the War of the Ring. In my topic, I only discussed the War of the Ring as the Third Age Wars.

I find the ambition and the work behind it very respectable, but I would ask for a source reference for each individual figure, otherwise it is all pure fantasy or subjective speculation. However, providing sources would at least give us a basis for discussion and other opinions, which would certainly enrich the topic.

I did not include a source. Because each Middle Earth information site and wiki contains its own information that is not available on other sites. But if you want, I can tell you the notionclubarchives as the source I quote the most. It is a very comprehensive and beautiful site. If you are curious, take a look there.

 

[Annatar]

I took the movie as a basis.

Please always add a disclaimer to this in future.
In a forum that even refers directly to Tolkien in the URL, you should be able to assume by default that you are quoting from his works.
At first glance, many of the figures seemed quite plausible to me, until I saw the Elves at Helm's Deep. This is where PJ really messed up.

 

[Ent]

I took the movie as a basis.

Yes, and this is what SeS was referring to as well.
The TTF site is dedicated to Tolkien's work(s) mostly, and learning as much as we can from those.
The movies and their contents aren't Tolkien's works... though we do have threads and places to discuss those.

So we need to be careful to distinguish rightly what is Tolkien, and what is not, so we don't confuse fact with fiction, stipulating up-front when any of our information comes from other than his own writings...particularly from the "movie-dom," which is far askew.

It's very suitable for other Forums and sites where their focus is different... but should be identified here.

I'm glad you didn't read any offense into the members' posts above... I probably jumped too quickly on the content.

 

[Andromadus the Invictus]

I noticed there were a couple small skirmishes from the Hobbit book that weren't mentioned, so I'll do my best to add to the list, but the Valar know I'm terrible with numbers, so I won't go into detail.

The Battle of Goblin-Town - Thorin's company (13 dwarves, a Hobbit, and an Istari) and some Goblins.
The Fir Trees - Thorin's company, Goblin Warg Riders, eagles.
The Spiders and the Flies - A Hobbit, and some spiders.
The Battle of Esgaroth - Archers of Lake-Town, Smaug.
The Battle of Five Armies - Champions of Erebor Reclaimed, Survivors of Lake-Town, Mirkwood Elves, Goblin-Town, Eagles.

Hope this helps!