What are you writing about now?

[david_wendelken]

My internal batteries are starting to recharge. I put @todo: markers in the text when I know I need to fix or do something but don't want to break stride to fix it right then and there. (Or I don't know how at the time!)

I knocked out half of the @todo: markers today.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

I just came across this while looking up a book trilogy. What is a planned fantasy genre?

 

[david_wendelken]

It was designed by a committee? Or there was a story outline before they started writing? Other than that, I have no clue!

 

[Maedhros_Nelyafinwë]

I have no clue either, never heard of it before.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

 

[Ent]

I'm not sure that's the same as a 'planned fantasy genre' though. It's just a planned trilogy I believe.

Can I get the full context of where the words 'planned fantasy genre' were used please?

There are several different fantasy genres existing, but I'm not finding any of them named 'planned genre' yet....

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

I'm not sure that's the same as a 'planned fantasy genre' though. It's just a planned trilogy I believe.

Can I get the full context of where the words 'planned fantasy genre' were used please?

There are several different fantasy genres existing, but I'm not finding any of them named 'planned genre' yet....

I sent it on the screenshot above.

 

[Maedhros_Nelyafinwë]

@Tyelkormo the Fair @Ent At Large I think the first two books have been released, but not the third. Hence it is planned to be a trilogy, but not a trilogy yet.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

@Tyelkormo the Fair @Ent At Large I think the first two books have been released, but not the third. Hence it is planned to be a trilogy, but not a trilogy yet.

I think this is the only explanation, even if worded a bit weirdly.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

The book cover reminded me of Maedhros a little, so I looked it up. Might give it a try.🤔

 

[Ent]

Oh. OK. Then I must say I don't see that as referring to a "Planned Fantasy Genre". Rather just a "Planned Trilogy."

There are many "planned series" works out there... Dune, The Robot Series (Asimov), The Foundation Series, the Dragonriders series...

Tolkien's set however, for example, had no 'plan' about it. It just happened.

Anyway, that's the way I read this at the moment.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

Well, time for me to review all my current projects here.😁
(Need to do this every once in a while.)

So, I'm currently working on 4 active RPs with @Server Room Gremlin and @Maedhros_Nelyafinwë. And I think 5 RPs put on hold in favor of these.

As for my Solo works:

• Mysterious Kisser: I think I'm around a quarter way through it at the moment. It falls mostly in the Romance and Comedy genre, and a little bit of thriller in the middle I guess. It's about the relationship of Celegorm and my OC in Valinor. I'm posting this on a conversation thread for my beta readers in the Youth Group.
• Cursed to Be Alone: I don't know how far along I am in this story, because I don't know where I'm going with this. It revolves around an orphaned elven boy(who would grow to be someone we are all familiar with it) and Celegorm, and the parental love he'd grow for this boy.
• A Dance With Fate: Again, this is about my OC and Celegorm. Each chapter is a snippet to a turning point in their life, or just the results of my brain producing fluff and angst for them.🫠 I'm not really sure when this would be done. I've only written one chapter for it, although I have ideas for more. It doesn't go along a straight timeline, and not all the stories would be from the pov of OC.
• Hasty in Guilt: There's only one chapter of this left! For those who have not read this, it begins with Little Celegorm running away from home after hurting his father's emotions, continuing with worried Nerdanel and Fëanor as they try to find a solution to figure out the whereabouts of their missing son.
• Mistake of A Lifetime: This one is about my other OC and the AU which I wrote with @Server Room Gremlin. I think I'm halfway finished with this already, but we'll have to wait and see what I'll end up doing. It's set after the rescue of Maedhros and the high tension between the two groups of the Noldor. Nethien(Nessanië or the Female Celegorm) meets her ex-betrothed and Nolofinwian supporter Arhesto after their long separation and the anger and grief between them leads to unfortunate events. I will not be posting this on TTF because of some triggering stuff involving the plot, and I'd rather not have those to be on TTF. But it's being posted on AO3 if anyone's curious.
• Amidst the Misty Glades: I have not written anything for this story since December last year, I think. I believe it's just easier to write about the Noldor and their stories with already developed characters. And I think one of the reasons I'm not really eager to continue with that one is because reading my earlier writings makes me cringe so badly. I'm kinda thinking about rewriting it all from the beginning and maybe it'd make it easier for me to continue with it. But I know I'd not totally abandon it because I have people waiting for it. (Looking at you, @Glorfindel Goldtress! 👀)

 

[david_wendelken]

@Tyelkormo the Fair , as a big fan of the Houses of Finarfin and Fingolfin, and certainly not of the sort of person who would sic a dog on Luthien (or any other woman), you'll have your hands full making me like the fellow! I look forward to reading your stories when they are done!

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

I had to look up that expression.😅

Personally, I don't really see what Celegorm and Curufin did as forcing Lúthien to anything other than remaining inside Nargothrond, and even in that there are some stuff that makes me question the whole thing.

Celegorm and Curufin brought her to Nargothrond and kept her there against her will and she couldn't leave anytime she wanted to, but she could put Morgoth and everyone else in his throne room in sleep? That doesn't make much sense to me, as the rest of the overthrowing Finrod thing. I don't really want to rant about how there are a lot of logical problems with B&L, so I suggest you read this blog post. It points out all the logical flaws I personally find in the story as well, and it suggests another more detailed scenario.

https://lintamande.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F52363276366

And before you call me biased, I was actually a very big fan of the Sindar because a fanfiction I read from their pov, and viewed the Fëanorians like demon reincarnation, except Maglor and Maedhros maybe, but reading Silmarillion really opened my eyes.
You see, though, except for a short exchange between Curufin and Eöl, I don't think we see any other dialogues or inner thoughts of these two characters and we don't really have anything to judge their character aside from Celegorm being called hasty to anger and Curufin having a perilous mood 24/7.

Also, if you're curious about how I write Celegorm, there are some of my works published in here. If you're even more curious, I can add you to the list of my beta readers.😊

 

[Maedhros_Nelyafinwë]

I had to look up that expression.😅

Personally, I don't really see what Celegorm and Curufin did as forcing Lúthien to anything other than remaining inside Nargothrond, and even in that there are some stuff that makes me question the whole thing.

Celegorm and Curufin brought her to Nargothrond and kept her there against her will and she couldn't leave anytime she wanted to, but she could put Morgoth and everyone else in his throne room in sleep? That doesn't make much sense to me, as the rest of the overthrowing Finrod thing. I don't really want to rant about how there are a lot of logical problems with B&L, so I suggest you read this blog post. It points out all the logical flaws I personally find in the story as well, and it suggests another more detailed scenario.

https://lintamande.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F52363276366

And before you call me biased, I was actually a very big fan of the Sindar because a fanfiction I read from their pov, and viewed the Fëanorians except Maglor and Maedhros maybe, but reading Silmarillion really opened my eyes.
You see, though, except for a short exchange between Curufin and Eöl, I don't think we see any other dialogues or inner thoughts of these two characters and we don't really have anything to judge their character aside from Celegorm being called hasty to anger and Curufin having a perilous mood 24/7.

Also, if you're curious about how I write Celegorm, there are some of my works published in here. If you're even more curious, I can add you to the list of my beta readers.😊

Very well said!

I so agree with the statement that everybody was acting out of character in Beren and Lúthien. When I think about the Sons of Fëanor and how brutally disciplined they were about the Oath-- they couldn't even rescue Maedhros from being tortured because of the Oath. And I don't know about you, but I'd do just about anything to stop a family member from suffering. They followed the Oath to the death even though they all hated it, and now suddenly they drop their convictions because they're going "dur dur pretty girl?" It makes no sense, to me at least.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

@Server Room Gremlin has found a very clever way of showing how it was fate(Eru, perhaps?) controlling the characters, and not characters controlling the fate. You'll see when she finally publishes the remaining chapters of TWC.

If Lúthien had left sooner, Finrod would have ended up alive. If Finrod lived, Curufin and Celegorm would likely have remained in Nargothrond, but under watch, or would have been banished, but not in the humiliating way they had. Beren would not have gotten Angrist, and he couldn't have gotten a Silmaril from Morgoth's crown this way. With no Silmaril, there would have been no kinslaying. No kinslaying meant Elwing and Earendil would have never met and therefore, no twins. No Silmaril also meant no offering for the Valar and no army of Valinor to win the War of Wrath. It was all the will of Eru for all these bad things to happen and for the devil to be put in chains again and the Free Folk of middle earth to be free once again.

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

Also, this kinda made me mad and it's true. Fëanorians have a large fanbase, but they also have a lot of haters for obvious reasons and mostly because of B&L because obv girlboss Lúthien can do no wrong and Celegorm and Curufin were more Evil™ than Morgoth himself. This story doesn't even make sense!

 

[Tyelkormo the Fair]

And to clarify what makes me really mad:

We(Fëanorian fans) are shut down even when we offer such a thorough post that even I as an INTP(so logical I can become toxic because of it sometimes) can't find any flaws in. It's unfair and we're called the biased ones.

 

[Maedhros_Nelyafinwë]

And to clarify what makes me really mad:

We(Fëanorian fans) are shut down even when we offer such a thorough post that even I as an INTP(so logical I can become toxic because of it sometimes) can't find any flaws in. It's unfair and we're called the biased ones.

👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 THIS! How it often goes, is we try to make some argument about why the Fëanorians aren't as bad as people think they are, and people go, "oh, so you're excusing kinslaying, then?"

I've also seen fans of the Fëanorians get gaslit, being accused of being sympathetic to real-life mass murderers because we like these characters.

 

[WatcherWraith]

And to clarify what makes me really mad:

We(Fëanorian fans) are shut down even when we offer such a thorough post that even I as an INTP(so logical I can become toxic because of it sometimes) can't find any flaws in. It's unfair and we're called the biased ones.

You have my sympathies. If it helps at all, you and many of the others here have shown me some new ways of looking at the House of Fëanor, and I shall be endeavoring to keep my eyes open through the rest of my travels through Middle-earth.