Help translating a ring inscription to 🧝Elvish?

[Anduniel]

Hello, I want to get a ring from Jans Henson, the company that made the One Ring for the movies. I want an Elvish inscription for my motto "After the darkest night, the sun always rises."
Here's what I've come up with so far:
Apa anmornië lómë -- After the darkest night
i anar illumë orya -- the Sun always rises, OR
i anar en orya -- the Sun still rises
But I wonder if saying this would be more appropriate for the second line?
i anarórë -- the sunrise

I'm also trying to find out if in Quenya "apa an--" would drop one of the "a"s to not have two vowels at the end and then start of a word, like Italian does, and be "ap'anmornië" but haven't seen any contractions/apostrophes in Tolkien's works.

I'm also considering this, short and simple:

Apa lómë, i anarórë
"After the night, the dawn (sunrise)."

I'd be spending about $1K on this ring, so I need to be 100% comfortable and in love with the translation!
Thanks!

 

[Elthir]

I'm also trying to find out if in Quenya "apa an--" would drop one of the "a"s to not have two vowels at the end and then start of a word, like Italian does, and be "ap'anmornië" but haven't seen any contractions/apostrophes in Tolkien's works.

There's the greeting in Book One of Fellowship, where the final vowel in lúmenna "upon the hour" is elided lúmenn' -- the line is: elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo "a star shines upon the hour of our meeting".

Then again, Tolkien also wrote lúmenna omentielvo elsewhere, and I'm not expert enough to know what the "rules" are here.

I'm also considering this, short and simple: Apa lómë, i anarórë "After the night, the dawn (sunrise)."
I'd be spending about $1K on this ring, so I need to be 100% comfortable and in love with the translation! Thanks!

Hmm. How 'bout a collaboration of Tolkien attested material, something said by Fingon's army along with something from Húrin Hurambar himself.

Auta i lóme! "The night is passing!" Aure entuluva! "Day shall come again!"

Noticing especially that the final -e of aure has not been elided here, despite the next word.

Close enough?

Or not

 

[Anduniel]

Thanks for your help and input! And yes, I'd forgotten about the apostrophe in "Elen..." Looks like Tolkien himself set examples of both possibilities, so that means I have choices! I like choices.
"Auta i..." is definitely nice, but it's not quite the idea I'm looking for, which is that even after the longest, darkest, even depressing or difficult time (night), the sun will always rise again and bring beauty and life back.

 

[Elhath Reborn]

Apa anmornië lómë -- After the darkest night

I'm not sure about the sound-combination -nm-, so one might be safer off with anamorna. The superlative "darkest" could also be arimorna.

 

[Elthir]

I'm not sure about the sound-combination -nm-, (. . .)

Could we see assimilation in such a case, as seemingly in the name Elemmacil?

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[Elhath Reborn]

Could we see assimilation in such a case, as seemingly in the name Elemmacil?

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That's a good catch and plausible IMO, albeit it might conflict with the prefix am- "up".

 

[Elthir]

That's a good catch and plausible IMO, albeit it might conflict with the prefix am- "up".

Good point. And thanks for the response 👍

I did find a Tolkien-attested word for "darkest", but again I don't have the expertise to know if the following examples cause "confusing waves" within 1950s (or later) Quenya.

And [lazy alert] I didn't read the full page itself in any case (!) but just this part.

"In another of his more legible note fragments, Tolkien appears to be making notes on suffixes. As examples, he uses mora -- which he apparently glosses as 'dark,' moranya, 'darker' and moranta, 'darkest.' (Tolkien, Fragment 16).

Hmm. Fragment 16? Anyway. If anyone wants to further decipher!

Sixteen Philological Books and Notes from the Library of J.R.R. Tolkien

Cushing Memorial Library and Archives at Texas A&M University houses a J.R.R. Tolkien collection, consisting of sixteen of his philological books in German, two full pages and four fragments of notes and two letters.

tolkienlibrary.com

 

[Anduniel]

Thanks for your responses, that's an interesting page! I just quickly skimmed it for now.