Eljorahir
Seeking the strange paths of Elvish dreams
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Frodo speaking with Galadriel after she “passes the test”:
‘I would ask one thing before we go,’ said Frodo, ‘a thing which I often meant to ask Gandalf in Rivendell. I am permitted to wear the One Ring: why cannot I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wear them?’
‘You have not tried,’ she said. ‘Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do not try! It would destroy you…’
I’m pondering Frodo’s use of the word “permitted”.
Did someone give Frodo explicit permission to wear the ring? If so, who?
Is the underlined sentence a non sequitur? The question he asks at the end of the sentence seems to have nothing to do with permission mentioned in the premise.
Why not simplify…
“I have worn the One Ring: why couldn’t I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wore them?”
I may be barking up a tree with nothing in it. But, I figured I’d give it a try and see if anyone else finds Tolkien’s use of “permitted” meaningful.
‘I would ask one thing before we go,’ said Frodo, ‘a thing which I often meant to ask Gandalf in Rivendell. I am permitted to wear the One Ring: why cannot I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wear them?’
‘You have not tried,’ she said. ‘Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do not try! It would destroy you…’
I’m pondering Frodo’s use of the word “permitted”.
Did someone give Frodo explicit permission to wear the ring? If so, who?
Is the underlined sentence a non sequitur? The question he asks at the end of the sentence seems to have nothing to do with permission mentioned in the premise.
Why not simplify…
“I have worn the One Ring: why couldn’t I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wore them?”
I may be barking up a tree with nothing in it. But, I figured I’d give it a try and see if anyone else finds Tolkien’s use of “permitted” meaningful.

