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WHOA! I loved the new prologue. I wonder who our narrator is... 😉👀

It's been so long since that original first chapter was posted I forgot the two of them spoke before the exchange happened. 😅 I found it amusing both had a brother by the same name. *Coughs knowingly*

Yet the juxtaposition between Youthful Innocence vs. Aged Anger is very present. I wish Tyelko had not touched the orb... as well as we all did...

I would have liked to see them carry on a longer conversation and try to figure the other out... buuuuut. That's not the story. Thanks a lot, you prototype of Fëanor's, you!😂

So excited to revisit the past and see it all come together once more... and then some! ❤️
 
WHOA! I loved the new prologue. I wonder who our narrator is... 😉👀
You should. 😌
Yet the juxtaposition between Youthful Innocence vs. Aged Anger is very present. I wish Tyelko had not touched the orb... as well as we all did...
Indeed, but if he hadn't, you wouldn't have gotten this story. 👀
So excited to revisit the past and see it all come together once more... and then some! ❤️
We're excited to be sharing this too!
 
That moth was eager to share its tale. Guess it's teeny body has been quivering with desire for gossip for quite some time.

He’d heard them a thousand times already, after all, and had come to the realization that ignoring them and acting apologetic was his best and fastest option to get out of there.
Tyelko must really have no inclination for smithing. I wonder if any craft to do with wood or clay would be better for him. Something Fëanor could still teach and bond with him on. But smithing is his father's greatest joy(besides his wife).

“It connects souls. That’s the idea of it. You’ll need a pair of them for it to work, of course. Imagine the times you are away with Oromë; if you have one of these with you, you can talk with us whenever you want. Exciting, isn't it?”
Fëanor(who does not yet understand the implications of what he's messing with): I'm trying to make a telephone!
Tyelko: ...splendid! Now if you'll just not call me when I'm hunting....

His father nodded and he continued.
“So …can I keep it if you don’t want it anymore?”

His tone was pleading, and even though his request had left Fëanáro a bit confused, he had no reason to deny him.

“You can. But why do you want it?”
Tyelkormo shrugged, not knowing the answer of this question either.

“I just… think it’s pretty.”
Fëanáro looked at the gray orb, expression thoughtful.
“I suppose so…”

He said and went back to the scroll he was busy with, dismissing Tyelkormo without a word.
Tyelkormo was unfazed by what others would think to be cold indifference, being used to this by now. He knew his father well enough to not be offended by this.
I imagine Fëanor's now considering the question of why Tyelko would want the "pretty orb", whether the physical attractiveness of something would be strong enough of a lure to finally interest Tyelko in the forge(or whether this interest indicates a shallower interest than he wants there to be), how he can fix that orb next time he works on a prototype of its kind, etc, etc. Fëanor's mind is busy, and often he forgets to speak what is in it.

There came the sound of a gasp and he heard it once more.

"Who are you?"
The strange man's voice sounded cold and threatening now. Dangerous.

"I… this is my room. Who… who are you?"
Some of his courage restored, he shot back at the stranger.
Tyelko: oi! My trinket, my questions! Answer, mist-swirler!

The last thing he heard was a gut-wrenching scream before everything went dark.
Both Tyelkos to each other: You are extremely inconvenient, you know that? I had things planned!
 
That moth was eager to share its tale. Guess it's teeny body has been quivering with desire for gossip for quite some time.
Indeed. :>


Fëanor(who does not yet understand the implications of what he's messing with): I'm trying to make a telephone!
Tyelko: ...splendid! Now if you'll just not call me when I'm hunting....
This is, in fact, a Palantír prototype. :>
...however, this particular attempt at creating one had some rare and unforeseen side effects. 🫢
 
This may have been previously unknown to you, but it is not really a secret. Just letting you know that our mysterious orb does have some basis or inspiration from canon. 😁
I knew what it was when you first posted it in the beta thread, lol. I was referring to the people who have yet to read it and were not aware. Hence the secrets. But yes, I do know it has basis in canon. The chapter on Palantíri in UT is fascinating.
 
Although… the room looked familiar. It screamed Tyelkormo. From the fur blanket on the bed to the dark green sheets and curtains. It looked like his room, but it was not his. Because it was not their house.
And it was not in Tirion, he realized.
For the silver light pouring inside the room from his window was far too faint to be of one anywhere near the White city.
Were they in Formenos? That… that was the only explanation.
But what about Huan and Maitimo? Had he dreamt those? And if it was night time already, why had nobody come after him?
The slow buildup of questions also slowly builds up the tension no doubt experienced in Tyelko as he checks off every place he's not. And he's getting further and further away from home. Not in his room. Not in his house. Not in Tirion, even. Things are getting desperate.

His hands. Those were not his hands.
And that culminates in the most terrifying moment of all. He's not even in his own body.

He scrambled to his feet, the fatigue replaced by the adrenaline caused by his terror, and he bolted out of the room.
He had to find his brother. He had to find Maitimo, or mother, or even father. They’d know how to fix this, whatever it was.
Such a difference between the kid Tyelko and the adult he has accidentally hijacked. He relies on his elder family much more than he would care to admit, especially his mother and oldest brother, and instantly tries to find them when his situation goes horribly wrong. It's very touching, a sign of trust...one which the Tyelko he's in will probably never show again, instead relying on himself and his own strength to fix his problems.

And it did not help how one of them was so close to him, he could almost reach out and grasp it in his own hands.
Maitimo. All of them. The Oath tortures them, grips them like a living thing in hands of iron. It shakes them like rag dolls and set them forth on plans and desires they cannot help feeling and wanting.
How much of that is Fëanor's own influence, I wonder? How much of him is in the Oath he made? Like all things created by Fëanor, his unique signature might be expected, even if it is only words and a spell of sorts rather than a thing made of stone or a gem. I wonder whether this pushing, prodding, provoking is in fact how Fëanor would be acting if he was here....

“What has happened to you Timo?”
How awful must it feel for Tyelko to be searching for someone who can help him out of the trap he's in, and then to find that someone trapped as well? How painfully his heart must have flinched at the mere sight of not only the scars, not only the unfamiliar age(I doubt Maitimo was quite as full-grown as he was here), but the weariness. The worn-down, worn-out expression. Maitimo always has answers, and now he looks like they've run right out of him.

Curufin knelt down, his face expressionless as he took stock of what he was seeing. Without touching his brother just yet, he examined the face leaning against Maedhros’ chest.
The dried blood drew his eye first. A wound to his head. The beginnings of a bruise, implying the cause was something blunt, not edged. Had he fallen? Or… become unaware of his surroundings?
Eyes, not merely half-closed from the swelling of tears, but squeezed tight shut. As though there was something he did not wish to see.
And this state of abandon, of being utterly lost in whatever had shaken him so; it was akin to grief or terror. These entangled the very soul, strung it along helpless under their influence.
All this spoke to Curufin of foresight. A vision of some kind. He had long suspected his brother of being prone to such things, though Celegorm had never made mention of it. But with the heavy and relentless spur of the Oath in their minds, wearing their souls down day by day, he could imagine even his powerful brother being brought low by a bout of dreadful foresight.
What a fascinating analyzation and conclusion. Of course nobody would think of what has really occurred; I'm surprised Tyelko still had that little trinket from when he was a boy. But Curufin's reasoning makes sense, even if it's wrong.

Once his eyes fell on Curufin, light returned to them and his face brightened just a little.
“Atar?”
Everyone stilled and looked at Celegorm with shock and fear written across their faces.
Maedhros’ heart sank. What on Arda was wrong with their brother?
Hah! It seems Curufin fits his name more and more! He even looks like Fëanor, so much so his features fool young Tyelko into thinking it's really his father come to help. And here, again, Tyelko reaches out for aid, though he did not consciously try to find his father before. I wonder if he thinks his father would not know what to do, or if he thinks his father would just try to help him bear the situation instead of getting him out of it. Whatever the case, he's glad to see "father" now.

Celegorm’s eyes were open, and Curufin searched them, as his brother’s expression slowly turned to one of confusion, with an edge of panic.
Had he lost his mind? Whoever was looking at him through those eyes was not the Celegorm he knew. And yet, it really couldn’t be anyone else. There was something achingly familiar about his demeanour, yet it… it made no sense at all.
This bit might be one of the crowning moments of Tyelko's horror. Little Curufin, younger than Tyelko, smaller, with such tiny hands, and suddenly...he's grown. Suddenly he looks like Atar. Suddenly he's too big, too mature. And no explanation Tyelko can come up with will give any sense to this scene anymore.

I wonder how his brothers will feel when they realize something of what's happened to him. Also, how did he get hurt? And who bandaged his head? Evidently none of his brothers, or they'd have said something. Maybe Tyelko patched himself up.
 
Maitimo. All of them. The Oath tortures them, grips them like a living thing in hands of iron. It shakes them like rag dolls and set them forth on plans and desires they cannot help feeling and wanting.
How much of that is Fëanor's own influence, I wonder? How much of him is in the Oath he made? Like all things created by Fëanor, his unique signature might be expected, even if it is only words and a spell of sorts rather than a thing made of stone or a gem. I wonder whether this pushing, prodding, provoking is in fact how Fëanor would be acting if he was here....
An interesting thing to think about: I'd never thought about it that way before. I would say this was certainly Fëanor's attitude by the time he died, when he realised all their efforts would come to nothing, yet still defiantly told his sons to hold to their oath. Even if he may have regretted this later in Mandos, this doesn't change the lasting effects of all his decisions while he was alive.


How awful must it feel for Tyelko to be searching for someone who can help him out of the trap he's in, and then to find that someone trapped as well? How painfully his heart must have flinched at the mere sight of not only the scars, not only the unfamiliar age(I doubt Maitimo was quite as full-grown as he was here), but the weariness. The worn-down, worn-out expression. Maitimo always has answers, and now he looks like they've run right out of him.
Exactly. I particularly like the way you phrased that last bit.


I wonder how his brothers will feel when they realize something of what's happened to him. Also, how did he get hurt? And who bandaged his head? Evidently none of his brothers, or they'd have said something. Maybe Tyelko patched himself up.
His brothers will wonder how he got hurt. But no-one has bandaged his head. He wanted to find someone to help him with that, before he realised he wasn't in his own body anymore and panicked.

Had… had he rolled off his bed in his sleep again? That was the most likely scenario. He had never got a concussion from this sleeping habit of his, but there were first times for everything.
He scolded himself mentally, trying to get to his feet so he could get out and ask someone to help him with his head wound. It was not bleeding anymore but he still needed to clean and bandage it.
 
The first part, detailing Celegorm's experience waking in the unfamiliar past, was so sad. He's changed drastically from the little boy he once was, even forgetting or having cast aside the Quenya he once primarily spoke to such a degree he doesn't speak it even when he can hear his nurse speaking it. And then to hear his brothers, and his father, and his reaction is largely tempered by who they became, not who they were(which makes sense, but who they became is sad).
What hurt the worst was probably his verbal reaction to Fëanor. That's his father, but he no longer wants to be a son. Celegorm wishes he was not this man's son. It's painful, and yet so understandable.

Fëanor's viewpoint was even more heartbreaking, not only as he has a small panic over the ring which has burned his child, but as he realizes why it did so. I find it precious he instantly disregarded the idea it was really Tyelko who has evil intentions, instead going straight to the theory of Tyelko being a victim of some kind of possession or curse. Which...he kind of is. Fëanor's care for his children is very deep.
And then Makalaurë's there, for some reason, and Fëanor's already engrossed in his need to solve, so he hands off the youngest kids and goes to make arrangements. And he puts away his pride, too. Ordinarily I can't imagine he'd suffer anyone outside his immediate family to know what's going on, but he can't handle this matter himself. He doesn't know how.

But one person might.

Now to see if it works.
 
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