
Either one. Lately, I've been using this website for word searches within the stories. (It seems to be reliable, but of course it may not be perfect.):You couldn't find the the word "Trollshaw" or just the word "shaw" in the book?
Oh, I think it's entirely "thinkable" (possible) 😄 ...either theory: conscious decision not to use it, or just an oversight.My ridiculously trivial observations from the Trollshaws…
Now I see: Tolkien uses Trolls’ wood in the story, and the index entry for Trolls’ wood has Trollshaws as a synonym in parentheses.
Flight to the Ford: “Frodo…recalled Bilbo’s account of his journey and the threatening towers on the hills north of the Road, in the country near the Trolls’ wood where his first serious adventure had happened.”
Comment #1:
It seems out of character for Tolkien to invent an interesting and apt name like Trollshaws then not use it directly in the story when the characters walk right through it. I’d almost think it was an oversight (if such a thing were thinkable).
Comment #2:
My old paperbacks from the 1980’s have the singular possessive Troll’s wood versus the plural possessive Trolls’ wood. I wonder if it was just a typographical error in the earlier printing.
I looked everywhere --- from the masthead to the bilge (ugh...nasty) from the prow to the stern, port to starboard--- couldn't find that phrase.Is anyone familiar with the phrase ‘go up in ships’?
Tolkien uses it in The Silmarillion:
Of the Mair: “…at times he [Osse] will rage in his willfulness without any command from Ulmo his lord. Therefore those who dwell by the sea or go up in ships may love him, but they do not trust him.”
My search of the internets yielded no sign of this phrase. I’m sure I’ve heard this used in some old movie. I’ve checked the text of Captain’s Courageous, Moby Dick, Billy Budd, and Mutiny on the Bounty only to be left dry-docked.
Thanks for searching. Perhaps it was a wild herring chase after all.I looked everywhere --- from the masthead to the bilge (ugh...nasty) from the prow to the stern, port to starboard--- couldn't find that phrase.
Must be another peculiar "Tolkien-ism" .