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🧝Elf children

They were created originaly by.... Im gonna let u read the Silmarillion. hehe... They're the Children of Illuvitar(the god in Tolkein's works), and are pretty much concieved, and when Varda, the star sprit queen lady, later called Elbereth by the elves, comes over them and shows them stars, they wake up.

Thats probly wrong, seeing as how i havent read the Silmarillion in forever, but they origanaly came to the world by something close to that concept...
 
And then after that, the original elves had children. Either the stork brings them or they find them in a pumpkin patch, just like humans.
 
morgul king : im reading the silmarilion but afther that the elves that are alredy on the earth they have they childrens, no?
 
Regarding that stork

So this stork - is it a special Elven stork, or is it our Earthian variety?
 
Re: Regarding that stork

Originally posted by LadyDernhelm
So this stork - is it a special Elven stork, or is it our Earthian variety?
um....... I think theywere joking about the stork, Im not completely sure though. SO either you are continueing their joke or you just didnt know. Or I might be wrong, but I always thought it was sexual reproduction where the elven baby would be in an elven womb......(read your biology book for an explanation). But I might be wrong, but Im pretty sure they were joking, but then agian you might be too.
 
*stares for a moment, then suddenly bursts out laughing*

Of course I was joking!!! Yes, I know about the reproductive system. I just thought that that was a very funny idea....

Sorry to have caused you stress
 
no stress....... I just think that the stork thing seems a bit to typical of a fantasy for tolkies work. And I just wanted to make sure you were joking, because if you were serious my opinion of you would not of been to high.
 
Last posted by MorgulKing
...Children of Illuvitar...
I have never heard of a character in any of Tolkien's wide variety of works called Illuvitar. You must be mistaken, or you are confusing this name with something else.
Ooohh, maybe you mean Ilúvatar!
Let's try to get these names right, peeps!
 
Elves are born when a male elf fertilizes the egg of a female elf, then, if everything is successful, the egg travels to the uterus, and the baby is born.
 
Originally posted by Baromir
Elves are born when a male elf fertilizes the egg of a female elf, then, if everything is successful, the egg travels to the uterus, and the baby is born.

ah so thats how it really happens



isnt the pregnancy longer?, i think a year but for all of you that definatly know can post and tell me if im right
 
I remember reading that Elf Gestation was a year, not nine months, and that they matured faster after birth. . .
 
OK, just an odd question from me. I presume elves had children in the usual way, but how long would elf childhoods last? I cant imagine elves being children at all. Can anyone hazard a guess?
 
Originally posted by Anira the Elf
they are children until they are over 100 or 200 too! ( i don't remember exactly. i even have the sil open infront of me) i donno if the are born as mortals are??? i would like to know.


In another thread it states that elves become adults at about 50 or so.
 
Originally posted by turin56
In another thread it states that elves become adults at about 50 or so.
I think that the thread you are refering to has already been merged into this one.

From my earlier post in This thread.

Not until the fiftieth year did the Eldar attain the stature and shape in which their lives would afterwards endure, and for some a hundred years would pass before they were full-grown.]
 
I Would like to point out the fact that in no place of Tolkiens writings does it say that Elves have pointy vulcan ears, unless of course some one can show this to me and i will take my foot out of my mouth
 
In Letter 27, Tolkien, describing what Hobbits look like, writes:
A round, jovial face; ears only slightly pointed and ‘elvish’ ....
Now in this letter, written to his American publisher in 1938, the word elvish would have to refer to the common image of pointed Elvish ears for its reader to understand it. That is, it is possible that Tolkien meant ‘elvish’ only as in popular images, not meaning the Elvish folk in his legendarium.

That would be why Tolkien put single quotation marks around the word.

On the other end, it would be somewhat odd to imagine Hobbits to have pointed ears that Tolkien would call “elvish”, while his elves would not.

A more convincing passage appears in The Lost Road (HoME 5), “The Etymologies”: The words “the next” refer to the following entry LAS²- meaning ‘listen’.

Some argue that this passage is ambiguous.

Firstly, the last word was not clear to Christopher Tolkien. He thought it might be &#8220human&#8221, but it might be something else.

But whatever that word might be, still the Quendian ears are more pointed and leaf-shaped than something or other.

Some dispute the meaning of “leaf-shaped”, indicating oak leaves and maple leaves and leaves of books and tables and such.

Well, I don’t find any dictionary entry for leaf-shaped on the web, but you can use Google or another good search engine to find texts containing the word leaf-shaped and see that leaf-shaped is used in practice to refer to things shaped like a pointed oval or like a valentine heart or to some intermediate shape.

It is very common usage.

Some claim the passge proves only that Tolkien thought Elves had pointed ears at one particular time.

Well, that is all it proves.

Pointed ears do bother some people, probably because they aren’t mentioned in folklore accounts of faërie folk and such but seem to have become part of the general public picture of Elves in the last two centuries through book illustrations.

The ears in book illustrations probably derive from the pointed, goatish ears often found on pictures of devils, fauns and satyrs which have been not unreasonably applied by artists to faërie folk.

To some pointed ears seem part of the degraded and pretty picture of faërie folk which Tolkien rejected. Therefore it seems to them that Tolkien ought to have rejected the pointed ears as well.

I sympathize with that point of view, and it is always possible that Tolkien changed his mind at some later point, on this and other things.

But such speculation aside, Tolkien did at least once, as indicated by this reference, envision his Elves with pointed ears.

He may have always done so.
 
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