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Last Stand of the Captains of Gondolin

sousuke22

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In The Book of Tales Vol. II, we are treated to the original version of The fall of Gondolin in all its valiant glory, unabridged, and not a one paragraph description as in the Silmarillion. After reading this version of the battle I must say that the last stand of the elves of Gondolin against the might of Melkor and Morgoth astounded me, especially when concerning the eleven captains of Gondolin and their individual feats throughout the battle. I will now narrate for those of you who are ignorant of this story of these captains and their deeds in the order of most powerful (IMO) to least:

Ecthelion of the Fountain: During the battle Ecthelion and his host were held in reserve until the foe breached the great walls, and then he and his shining blade issued forth, and it is said that when Ecthelion and his host came upon the orcs in that battle, they did more hurt to that vile race than at any other time in all of Middle Earth. After Ecthelion was become weary Tuor came up to fight alongside him, and there Ecthelion killed three balrogs in mortal combat before being greviously wounded and taken to the fountain, where came Gothmog, lord of balrogs, and struck down Tuor, only to be drowned in the fountain by Ecthelion's valiant struggle.

Result: Ecthelion was himself killed in the final struggle when he took the life of Gothmog.

Glorfindel of the Golden Hair: Glorfindel and his host achieved much during the Fall of Gondolin, but it was not until after the battle, when Tuor and his host were making their escape through the pass of Tumladin, when Glorfindel had his finest hour. A host of orcs ambushed and attacked that last contigent of elves on the steep and rocky slopes, and with them they had a balrog who tore through the elves until Glorfindel met him blow for blow upon the rocks and precipices, covering the retreat of his people.

Result: Glorfindel wounded that balrog and in its rage the beast flung itself and Glorfindel over the cliff, claiming that noble lord's life.

Turgon, King of Gondolin: Turgon, of course, was the king of Gondolin, the brother to the former king, Fingon, and the son of Fingolfin. During the Fall of Gondolin, Turgon and his royal guard fought to the last at the close of the battle, taking on many a dragon, balrog, and orc. Turgon issued to stay in that battle till the bitter end and would not be swayed from this decision, and in his sacrifice did he buy time for Tuor and the refugees to escape.

Result: The king of Gondolin was burned to the ground with his house by the flames of the dragons.

Tuor: The only human in the battle leading to the Fall of Gondolin, Tuor was greater in strength and ferocity than most of the men in that battle, and it was he who broke Meiglin's body upon the cliffs and sent the men of his house to running. Tuor took the lives of five balrogs in that struggle and lead the remnance of that people to safety.

Result: Tuor was one of the three captains to survive that battle, leading his adopted people to salvation.

Galdor of the Tree: It is said that Galdor was the greatest in might of the captains of Gondolin, and he proved this in his unwavering resolve throughout the battle. Not much is made cleer of Galdor's achievements during the battle, save for that he saved Tuor and Egalmoth when they had little hope left, and it was he and his contigent who lead the way through the pass of Tumladin.

Result: Galdor was one of the three captains to survive that great siege.

Rog of the Hammer of Wrath: Rog, an elf of the House of the Hammer of Wrath, weilded a mighty hammer in battle and was said to be second in physical might only to Galdor. During the Fall of Gondolin, Rog and his host were seperated from the rest of the captains in the initial assault, and instead of retreating, Rog and his house plowed forward, driving the hosts of Melkor outside the gates and out onto the fields of the valley. There he and his folk made a last stand, and it is said that not one of that folk survived the battle.

Result: Rog, in his anger, was one of the first casulties among the captains.

Egalmoth of the Heavenly Arch: Egalmoth was a steadfast and valiant warrior, and he lead one of the largest houses in that final defence of Gondolin. He alone of the host of the Gondolthlim weilded a mighty curved sword in battle, and he and his folk were among the first to encounter the foe in battle. Egalmoth fought a retreating battle at the side of Tuor and Ecthelion at the fountain, and there he was greviously wounded, though he carried onward to the pass of Tumladin.

Result: Though wounded, Egalmoth survived that great conflict, though his life was taken fighting for Dior's kingdom against the Sons of Feanor some years later.

Duilin of the Swallow: Duilin and his house were the very first to encounter the enemy on the outter walls, and he and his group repelled the dragons and balrogs for a while ere the gates fell broken. It was said that Duilin was the swiftest and surest of foot among the Gondothlim, and the surest with a bow, though he was slain by a whip of a balrog firing from the walls.

Result: Duilin was the very first of the captains to fall in battle, inciting the rage in Rog's heart.

Penlod the Tall: Penlod and his host were mighty sword weilders, and they fought at the front of the city alongide Duilin and his group. Penlod lasted long into the battle but was eventually overcome and died fighting with his folk.

Result: Penlod was one of the first great casulties of the battle.

Meiglin and Stalgant: These were two disgraces of captains and should not even be counted among them, as Meiglin was the betrayer of Gondolin and attempted to kill Earendel and succeeded in burning the house of Tuor. Stalgant was no less disgracful and none in that battle saw him, save for some who claimed he had lain in his bed and wept throughout the melee.

Result: Meiglin was broken and cast from the walls by the hands of Tuor, and it is believed that Stalgant burned with his home.
 
My views on this superly cool story ---> Yay for being way better than what was in that The Silmarillion book! Very few fight scenes interest me, but this was epic enough for me to not yawn through. I especially enjoyed the little touches, like that one about Orcs still getting afraid when they hear Ecthelion's name. Or the one about how elves still refer to somebody up against terrifying odds as Glorfindel versus the Balrog. Anyways, of course, my favorite of these characters would have to be Rog, since he seems the most like a Dwarf. :D Also, hm. I shall have to reread what I have about that Stalgant dude. If he was never accounted for, I could always bring him back as some superly cool as well as weaselly character in an R. P. G. or something. :rolleyes:
 
I agree that the BoLT version is much better than the paragraph in The Silmarillion, and that the daring deeds of the captains were astounding, but there is one point I disagree with, and that is King Turgon. After reading The Silmarillion I assumed that Turgon had died defending his people and city. After reading the long version I had a very different opinion of the king. He ignored the advice of the majority of his captains because he didn't want to risk the treasures that he had in Gondolin. When it became obvious that Gondolin was lost he threw his crown down on the ground and climbed his tower and there he stayed, even though he knew the men of his house would stay there and defend him to their deaths. Suddenly he doesn't seem like such a great guy to me anymore.
 
I think the Turgon of the BoLT might well be more selfish than in the later versions of the tale. As a parallel, Thingol in BoLT is very much ruder and less noble than his successor in later versions of Beren and Luthien.
 
I have never held Thingol in very high reguards, as little changed about him from the BOLT 2 and The Silmarillion. Turgon, on the other hand, does have somewhat of an unflattering cameo in BOLT 2, but we all have flaws, the question is, do the ends justify the means, did he just make an honest mistake, or was he arrogant to no ends?
 
Obviously I've always been a little biased when it comes to Turgon... but there is a quote in BoLT2 that I have always thought gets right to the heart of Turgon.

'Then said Idril heavily: "Sad is the blindness of the wise"; but Tuor said: "Sad too is the stubborness of those we love - yet 'twas a valiant fault"

You can't compare Turgon to Thingy-ol... not in BoLT and not in The Silmarillion. I've always seen 'Turgon's Folly' to quote our old TTF friend Maedhros (sadly missed), as a drawing of the line in the sand. This far... and no further. Our own history is full of such instances... and whilst they are tragic... they show spirit. Why didn't Churchill surrender to Hitler? He could have saved the British people a world of pain. But you see... Churchill was victorious in the end.

There lies the difference.

If Turgon had held out unto the end... he would be the greatest hero of all Elvendom. The one that got away. I know that if I was the king of an elven Utopia hidden away in the mountains, a city of beauty and splendor, I would fight for it. Curse Turgon how you will, but ask yourself, what did the people of Gondolin think? Proud children of the Firstborn? To run at the first sign of danger? I'm not so sure...
 
From how I read it Turgon didn't really do anything at the end, though. He just climbed up in his tower and waited for it to fall. I can understand why he wouldn't want to leave his city for any number of reasons. I just thought he'd be a little more active in the defense of it...
 
In the BOLT, Turgon and his royal retinue were very active in the defense of the city, partly responsible for allowing Tuor, Glorfindel, and the refugees to flee to safetly while fighting on the steps leading to the palace.
 
I think one of the reasons this version was not incorporated into The Silmarillion was the fact that certain concepts had changed in Tolkien's cosmology. For instance, Balrogs at the time of BoLT are more numerous and less overwhelming than they later became. The big question is whether Tolkien, given the time, would have reworked this to better fit into the later versions of The Silmarillion.
 
Arvegil sums up my thoughts......

Tolkien writes in one of his Letters that there were ONLY SEVEN Balrogs after the fall of Utumno, so there are SERIOUS inconsistencies within this story & his later conceptions of the Wars of Beleriand.

The thought that a mere human, even Tour, whom The Silmarillion says 'alone was accounted among the Eldar' (go figure THAT one), could kill one, let alone FIVE Balrogs, is absurd in the context of the published history of Balrog battles & Middle Earth.
EVERY Balrog destoyed has been destroyed by a being that is High Elven or Maiar & is themselves destroyed in the process.
To think of Balrogs just being 'offed' like Dirty Harry shooting thugs with his .44 is a bit silly.....
Don't forget, this IS the first story Tolkien ever wrote & he spent 55 more years refining his Universe afterwards.

This story IS in 'The Book Of LOST TALES', i.e., it's NOT A FIXED HISTORY as part of Middle Earth's legend......

The later legend, the later Turgon & Thingol, are the true ones, not the earlier ones.

However, this dosen't make the story of the battle an unenjoyable piece of literature.

Me, I tried to read both Books Of Lost tales when they first came out in the early '80's.
I found them so archaic that I couldn't get through them - all those 'thee's' & 'thous'.... :confused:
Maybe I should try again. ;)
As for 'The Lays Of Beliariand'? :eek:
 
Yes this is indeed only the early form of the 'Fall of Gondolin' and JRRT was in the process of re-writing it to conform more closely with his later concepts as can be seen in Unfinished Tales. Unfortunatly he had only got as far as Tuor's arrival at the point where he could look over the plain at the City of Gondolin.

In his letters he stated that there were probably only 3 or at most 7 Balrogs. Though I think that to allow for reaching consistancy he most likely would have gone with 7.

The thought that a mere human, even Tour, whom The Silmarillion says 'alone was accounted among the Eldar' (go figure THAT one), could kill one, let alone FIVE Balrogs, is absurd in the context of the published history of Balrog battles & Middle Earth.
EVERY Balrog destoyed has been destroyed by a being that is High Elven or Maiar & is themselves destroyed in the process.
To think of Balrogs just being 'offed' like Dirty Harry shooting thugs with his .44 is a bit silly.....
In terms of the later works it is true that very few were able to kill a Balrog and that the survival rate was certainly not the best ;)
It is possible that had Tolkien finished his re-write it would not have been a Balrog that he killed in the battle.

As for your "(go figure THAT one)", it is quite easy to me. Eru changed the fate of one of the Eldar (Luthien) so needed to change the fate of one of Men to 'Balance the Books'. :)
Me, I tried to read both Books Of Lost tales when they first came out in the early '80's.
I found them so archaic that I couldn't get through them - all those 'thee's' & 'thous'....
Maybe I should try again.
As for 'The Lays Of Beliariand'?
I enjoyed the BoLT imensely. But then again I never had any problem with the somewhat disjointed way the Sil can seem to some people.

As for 'The Lay Of Beleriand' I thought them wonderful. I found the best way for me to enjoy them was to actually speak them aloud (though it sometimes caused my wife to crack up :D )
 
I enjoyed the BoLT imensely. But then again I never had any problem with the somewhat disjointed way the Sil can seem to some people.


It's been 20 years since I tried BOLT's & LOB, so you never know.....

I'm currently reading 'The Shaping of Middle-Earth' & enjoying that, so......

The Silmarrilion, it took me THREE readings when it first came out (I was 16 at the time) to get the gist of it, between 'The Music of The Ainur' & all those names. :eek:

The biggest problem for me is just trying to enjoy the changing stories as STORIES & not HISTORY - I've always analysed Tolkien's Middle-Earth as a Real place, i.e., history, not just a novel. Therefore, the changing stories drive me crazy. :mad:

I even read HOME as a source of MORE information, not as a guide to Middle-Earth's roots. :rolleyes:

Weird, huh?

Although, I bet there's alot more folks like me out there.

I think it's pretty clear that JRRT himself looked at Middle-Earth the same way. ;)
 

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